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AMD took the stage at E3 to announce its "Navi" family of GPUs. The company's new graphics cards are officially the AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and Radeon RX 5700. The 5700 series is launching July 7, making the GPUs a one-two punch alongside AMD's Ryzen 3000 series CPUs.

AMD isn't tackling the flagship GPU market with the 5700 series. Instead, the company is aiming for more mainstream pricing with mainstream performance: the 5700XT is $449, while the 5700 is $379. AMD is positioning the cards against Nvidia's GeForce RTX 2070 ($499) and 2060 ($349), respectively, and claims performance wins in each comparison. The cards introduce AMD's new "RDNA" architecture, which AMD says has 1.25x performance-per-clock and 1.5x performance-per-watt over the previous generation. The chips are built on TSMC's 7nm manufacturing process, a significant shrink from the 12nm process used on the Radeon RX 590, and on Nvidia's GeForce RTX 2080. The Navi die is significantly smaller than the previous-generation Vega design, with a die area of only 251mm2 compared to the 495 mm2 die area for Vega. The smaller die should make the Navi significantly cheaper to produce than Vega.

For specs, the top-end Radeon RX 5700 XT has 40 compute units with 2560 stream processors total. AMD gives three numbers for the clock rate on the XT: a 1605MHz "Base" clock, a 1755MHz "Game" clock, and a 1905MHz "Boost" clock. As usual, the cheaper 5700 disables compute units and lowers the clock rate, so you have 36 compute units for 2304 stream processor total, a base clock of 1465MHz, game clock of 1625MHz, and a boost clock of 1725MHz. If any of these clock rates are too conservative for you, AMD is promising the 5700 XT is "overclocking ready" thanks to a power solution with room to grown. Both of AMD's reference designs come with 8GB of GDDR6 memory.
 

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Wait! Empire is AMD and Intel is The Resistance? :unsure: :unsure: it should be the opposite :)
I need to say it, yes. As Intel didn't changed the architecture for years now, making more and more people pissed, I hope AMD with Ryzen 3000 takes every single dolar from Intel. Maybe, when you hit at Intel's wallet, they will finally wake up.

And, no. Intel is still an empire to AMD.:cautious:
 

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I need to say it, yes. As Intel didn't changed the architecture for years now, making more and more people pissed, I hope AMD with Ryzen 3000 takes every single dolar from Intel. Maybe, when you hit at Intel's wallet, they will finally wake up.

And, no. Intel is still an empire to AMD.:cautious:
Why should they change the architecture though? Their CPUs even with their outdated architecture still have the best performance per watt than any other chips so they are really just waiting for the competition to catch up unfortunately.
 

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Why should they change the architecture though? Their CPUs even with their outdated architecture still have the best performance per watt than any other chips so they are really just waiting for the competition to catch up unfortunately.
Intel can't do high core parts without a complete redesign, Ice Lake might see that redesign and Intel is hurrying as fast as they can but they will always be tied with how fast they can redesign and spin.

They emptied out all their CPU designs in stock to compete against Ryzen 1 and 2 so at this point it's a full design and spin to get a competent competitor to Ryzen 3. The first CPU that could do that would be Ice Lake (but it would have required them to redesign it while trying to fix 10nm).

AMD clearly caught them off-guard with the Ryzen Architecture while they were having issues with 10nm at the same time, this is Pentium 4 all over again.

Intel is so desperate they releasing high frequency CPUs with poor thermal and energy efficiency.
 

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Aren't they working on a GPU now? I think that's their new strategy. Building out the GPU component of their CPU chips to accelerate many specialized parallel processes can give them the much needed edge. I think Intel is playing pretend and they are probably already sitting on a massive redesign but they are milking the old architecture for as long as they possibly can like the corrupt clowns they are.
 

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This prices are going crazy. Few years ago mid range GPUs cost like 200 euros, now 350+ (depends where do you live). Even RX580 are 250+.
People should stop buying GPUs and force Nvidia/AMD to lower prices.
RX 580 is not considered mid range, RX 570 that is, and is sold at 200~250 as always.

Both the 5700XT and 5700 outperform the RX 580, and their price range is acceptable.
 

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RX 580 is not considered mid range
It actually is considered mid range, as RX 590, Vega 56 and Vega 64 are considered high range GPUs.
The problem is that, 10 years ago, we considered high end GPU those which can push 1080p 50+ FPS ( for games released in that time).
How we have 4K resolutions. 10 Years ago you could build a completely fine gaming computer with 500 dollars. Now you need much more than that.
And the main problem is that nVidia and Intel are dominating GPU and CPU high end market and constantly push the price limits for those who can pay the premium. And without healthy competition they got greedy.