DeepWeb

Level 23
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Yes. I will save you the energy and time and say Cloudflare DNS (1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.1) is easily the best 3rd party DNS other than your ISP's DNS and having a local resolver. I have no idea what type of voodoo they are using but Cloudflare appears to ping their closest CDNs and those are extremely fast and consistent in their response time.
 

blackice

Level 6
Yes. I will save you the energy and time and say Cloudflare DNS (1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.1) is easily the best 3rd party DNS other than your ISP's DNS and having a local resolver. I have no idea what type of voodoo they are using but Cloudflare appears to ping their closest CDNs and those are extremely fast and consistent in their response time.
Currently I’m using DoT with cloudflare. So that helps a lot, thank you.
 

Burrito

Level 13
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It's been a long time since I tried DNS Bench.

When I did try it, I preferred DNS Jumper.

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It's been a long time since I tried DNS Bench.
When I did try it, I preferred DNS Jumper.
I just ran that test.... and I see that Norton Connectsafe is on there...I thought they got out of the DNS business..

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And, Cylance will flag on DNS Jumper. You have to rescue it from quarantine.
 

DeepWeb

Level 23
Verified
@Burrito I have a local resolver and used to have Hurricane Electric, Sprintlink, Level3, Neustar, Google DNS and Norton ConnectSafe. I tried them all for weeks. I was obsessed trying to find the best among them. I have to vouch for Cloudflare. It is the only one that will give you a consistently low result. The others will occasionally have a faster 1st result, but Cloudflare is fast if you look up a familiar domain or a foreign domain and the latter is really what makes the difference. If you ever travel to a site that people don't usually visit, it resolves probably 10x faster than the others including Google. The only exception I would say is Hurricane Electric because they have a fascinating IPv6 backbone and a massive database. But they rely solely on their system. I have been in situations where websites wouldn't resolve because Hurricane Electric didn't have the domain and IP... And I don't know what they are doing with my DNS queries. Sprintlink and Google DNS are phony about their privacy policy too. So it really only leaves Cloudflare. Also remember that good DNS servers will actually give second priority to pings and first priority to queries. They will also delay packages if you spam them with queries from your IP. Real world experience, I have to give it to Cloudflare because of their reliability and consistent performance. Also don't bother with OpenNIC. Most unreliable DNS servers in the universe.
 

Burrito

Level 13
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@Burrito .... Also remember that good DNS servers will actually give second priority to pings and first priority to queries. They will also delay packages if you spam them with queries from your IP. Real world experience, I have to give it to Cloudflare because of their reliability and consistent performance. Also don't bother with OpenNIC. Most unreliable DNS servers in the universe.
I actually didn't know that the DNS servers differentiated between pings and queries. That does possibly change how one can look at tests like the one I just posted.

And thanks for your discussion of good DNS servers. I've been using Neustar based on @Evjl's Rain testing, but do travel quite a bit and I'll take another look at Cloudflare. (y)

I just ran a test again...

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Yep, Cloudflare looks good.
 
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DeepWeb

Level 23
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@Burrito Yes. It's also the reason why your ISP DNS scores so low probably. ISPs have optimized their DNS servers to prioritize queries over ping. But they are actually the fastest DNS servers if it wasn't for their privacy issues. In DNS Bench I rank servers by uncached and Dotcom lookups because they represent how fast the servers can find something that is not in their records and for me, that is where the big difference is. Cloudfare puts all of them to shame including ISP DNS.