AV-Comparatives Real-World Protection report (September '17)

[mlnevese]

Not taken seriously - really ? These monthly AV-Comparatives threads get people banned from the forum on a regular basis.

If anyone takes these tests so seriously that they get banned over them then all I'll say is I'm sorry for them... That's no different from the fanboy who does not understand that EVERY product out there has its flaws, bugs and vulnerabilities, not to mention methods to bypass them.

 

[bribon77]

Blind! guides of the blind, if a blind man leads a blind man, both fall into the pit. Do not marry an antivirus, Antivirus programs are like washing machines also have a program, And no one argues that if my washer is the best.

 

[VeeekTor]

While that seems logical, it isn't reality.

Seems right to me. Failure with 100 samples, means failure with those same samples, plus 200 more.

 

[mlnevese]

Blind! guides of the blind, if a blind man leads a blind man, both fall into the pit. Do not marry an antivirus, Antivirus programs are like washing machines also have a program, And no one argues that if my washer is the best.

It wouldn't surprise me if someone out there on the internet is discussing a testing system to discover which washing machine is the best....

 

[VeeekTor]

And if you think it's a dishonest test, that someone paid for the results, then I suggest you're wrong, not that dishonesty doesn't happen, but Microsoft would be in first place, since they have much more money than all these other companies combined. Plus your assuming that AVComp is a liar.

 

[Deleted Member 3a5v73x]

Not taken seriously - really ? These monthly AV-Comparatives threads get people banned from the forum on a regular basis.

Ahah People defend their favourite AV product. Those who argue the most, know the least. I was waiting for someone to ask why Eset has fallen off the top and if it is "meddle-performer" now

 

[509322]

Seems right to me. Failure with 100 samples, means failure with those same samples, plus 200 more.

AV-Comparative, AV-Test, AV Bulletin tests are almost never consistent when testing "advanced" protections. Such tests as MRG Effitas, AVLap.pl, etc. Softs that do great in the AV tests do terrible in the advanced testing. Some AV that do poorly in the AV tests do much better in the advanced testing.

And even the "advanced" testing can be done incorrectly.

So you cannot trust these tests absolutely. None of them - ever.

 

[509322]

Seems right to me. Failure with 100 samples, means failure with those same samples, plus 200 more.

It doesn't work that way absolutely. It is just a general trend thing - nothing more, nothing less. And the AV that does great for years can take a nose-dive for both the short and long term.

AV test results from a particular vendor viewed across years are the best general indicator of the protections tested.

 

[509322]

There is only a particular type of person who will defend their soft and behave like an out of control, unhinged idiot in the process and continuously attack others - even those not participating in any discussion - on the forums.

Those types eventually get themselves banned. It is just a matter of time.

Some people just cannot help themselves.

 

[Handsome Recluse]

While that seems logical, it isn't reality.

One trigger and this might evolve into a logic vs science debate.

 

[509322]

One trigger and this might evolve into a logic vs science debate.

Yeah, well... there's a lot of bogus triggers on the security forums. And that's why these AV-C threads cause a lot of pointless drama.

 

[212eta]

It's extremely shocking for me to see Microsoft outperforming Emsisoft. Wow!

I'm Not surprised at all.

 

[overdivine]

as a home user no antivirus is as good as any antivirus if you know what you are doing.
no antivirus is flawless it all depends on what is behind your "click". with some you can click more with some less toll you get an infection.
tests are kind of useless because they don't test what you will click

 

[Malware Person]

bitdefender got all of them. nice! emsisoft needs to step up their game, they can't let windows defender beat them.

To be honest, windows defender is rapidly improving recently.

 

[woodrowbone]

bitdefender got all of them. nice! emsisoft needs to step up their game, they can't let windows defender beat them.

To be honest, windows defender is rapidly improving recently.

It´s just a pity that Windows Defender is the heaviest AV I ever tested, it goes beyond me how Microsoft is incapable of fixing this???

/W

 

[gery79]

i like to see once in a while tests even when everyone bashes them . |For instance i liked avg for years but now avg is being destroyed by avast . I am not tempted by the high scores it has because performance wise i think avg is being deranged . On the other side McAfee is always among the most hated software out there . I see a lot of people that say a lot of bad things but i have used it for a year and the only thing i now for sure is that it was heavy on ram but not in usage .
So the discussion will never end about it for vendors such as drweb symantec f-secure etc . i know one thing that the power of ads is still what drives people to their choices