CIA impersonated Kaspersky anti-virus software

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Is this for real, lol? So is K somewhat vindicated now? This top-secret Hive stuff gets leaked into the public domain like that, it's supposed to remain hush-hush. This is embarrassing, son. :barefoot:

CIA= Clowns In Action
CIA= Code Isn't Authentic
CIA= Can't Impress Anyone
 

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I'm a UK citizen born and bread and even though our government has always had extremely close ties with the US I'd trust Russia before I trusted the US government. And what the US have done to Kaspersky is absolutely disgusting and let's not forget that when it comes to Iran the US are just Israel's puppets, so I'd love to know just how much involvement Israel had in this. Then the US government rigs it's own election and makes it look like and tell people that it was Russia and Kaspersky who somehow played a part.
 

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I'm a UK citizen born and bread and even though our government has always had extremely close ties with the US I'd trust Russia before I trusted the US government. And what the US have done to Kaspersky is absolutely disgusting and let's not forget that when it comes to Iran the US are just Israel's puppets, so I'd love to know just how much involvement Israel had in this. Then the US government rigs it's own election and makes it look like and tell people that it was Russia and Kaspersky who somehow played a part.
Dear ZeroDay, have you ever lived in Russia? Have you got possibilities to watch TV channels ( I mean not RT but russian speaking as Rossiya 24 or Rossiya 1? Have you ever heard about such ,,personas" as Soloviev and Kiseliov and about ,,(USA) Into radioactive ashes"? About Gayrope? About ,,f*kin anglo-saxons"? Have you ever heard Putin's words: Russia could have won WW2 Without American lend-lease and without Ukraine" ? I heard that all. Do you know that about year ago one user of social media reposted a message: ,,In 1939 Soviet Army together with Nazi Germany occupied Poland". For that the user was sentenced for 3 years in prison (I don't remember the final of this proccess; for extremism or for disturbing truth). I speak (bad) and understand (very well) French, English, Russian, Spanish and Lithuanian. I have no problem to search for information. And I definitely prefer to by watched by CIA rather than neo stalinist- tsarist russian FSB.
 
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Dear ZeroDay, have you ever lived in Russia? Have you got possibilities to watch TV channels ( I mean not RT but russian speaking as Rossiya 24 or Rossiya 1? Have you ever heard about such ,,personas" as Soloviev and Kiseliov and about ,,Radiation ashes over America"? About Gayrope? About ,,f*kin anglo-saxons"? Have you ever heard Putin's words: Russia could have won WW2 Without American lend-lease and without Ukraine" ? Do you know that about year ago one user of social media reposted a message: ,,In 1939 Soviet Army together with Nazi Germany occupied Poland". For that the user was sentenced for 3 years in prison (I don't remember the final of this proccess). I speak and understand French, English, Russian, Spanish and Lithuanian. I have no problem to search for information. And I definitely prefer to by watched by CIA rather than neo stalinist russian FSB.
I'll be sure to type up a list of American war crimes and crimes against their own people. Oh, the list is endless. The US in THE single largest war monger on this planet and are responsible for millions of deaths in the last decade alone. My friend - We can go back on forth on this all year, but in the end we're going to have to agree to disagree. In this day and age and the present times we live in I'd trust Russia over the US government all day every day.

I speak multiple languages too, although I'm not sure what that has to do with what the CIA have been caught doing. I think Kaspersky should demand a public apology from the US government.
 

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I'll be sure to type up a list of American war crimes and crimes against their own people. Oh, the list is endless. The US in THE single largest war monger on this planet and are responsible for millions of deaths in the last decade alone. My friend - We can go back on forth on this all year, but in the end we're going to have to agree to disagree. In this day and age and the present times we live in I'd trust Russia over the US government all day every day.

I speak multiple languages too, although I'm not sure what that has to do with what the CIA have been caught doing. I think Kaspersky should demand a public apology from the US government.
No offence, ReroDay, still: have you got possibilities to watch Russian television in oder you could understand what Russians are thinking not only about America, but also about UK and Europe? My country has never suffered from American war crimes, no one Lithuanian was killed by Americans. but from Russia and Russian soldier - multiple times. What concerns Kaspersky: i deeply respect him as a specialist. But in this RT reportage specialist was talking about stolen Kaspersky certificate and about some mysterious software that impersonate Kaspersky. No screenshots, nada. That is suspicious.
 
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I'll be sure to type up a list of American war crimes and crimes against their own people. Oh, the list is endless. The US in THE single largest war monger on this planet and are responsible for millions of deaths in the last decade alone. My friend - We can go back on forth on this all year, but in the end we're going to have to agree to disagree. In this day and age and the present times we live in I'd trust Russia over the US government all day every day.

I speak multiple languages too, although I'm not sure what that has to do with what the CIA have been caught doing. I think Kaspersky should demand a public apology from the US government.

I've worked with Russian companies. I know a good amount about Russia and how business is done. There is a certain degree of cutthroat activity for sure, 'customer is always right' does NOT apply in Russia as businesses operate on a 'we are doing you a favor' mentality in most cases. Corruption, bribery and corporate espionage is pretty widespread. It's sort of like the wild west over there with a good bit of 'anything goes' tossed in. Nationalistic pride runs very very deep in Russians. Don't mistake this pride for raw, deep hatred for Americans. Consider it like opposing teams in a sporting event, that's about the depth of this is the vast majority of Russian Citizens..

Even knowing all of that I would trust Russians over the US Govt and specifically the CIA. I have absolute ZERO trust and confidence in our govt. and it's divisions. In fact, I am almost always inclined to 'do the opposite' of what they recommend. There are well document and absolutely horrific crimes against our people (US Citizens) committed by our govt. If the Snowden dumps, Vault stuff, JFK papers and other things aren't enough to convince anyone, what is? My god people, in those JFK papers they conspired to use biological weapons and commit false flag terror attacks on our soil. If you really want to go back, you'll find our govt. did horrific things against it's citizens including spraying cities with biological agents with untold short and long term health impacts. These aren't conspiracy theories, they are fact.

Operation Sea-Spray - Wikipedia

Revealed: Army scientists secretly sprayed St Louis with 'radioactive' particles for YEARS to test chemical warfare technology | Daily Mail Online

So yeah.. I won't trust our corrupt govt. and by proxy, many firms that work at the behest of our govt. I'd rather trust a slightly less genocidal govt. that is half way across the world and probably has zero interest in me and near zero ability to knock on my door. Although I will say I would be more comfortable trusting a firm in say, Norway or the Netherlands first and foremost..
 
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I think all of this Kaspersky crap from the US Govt. is actually driving people to Kaspersky.

I've seen a few larger corporations convert to it in the last few months. I've seen a number of SMB's convert to it. A few of my friends bought it recently as well and I have put it on a few laptops I sold recently. I think it will overall have opposite effect they desire and people see through the nonsense our govt. is stirring up with this.

If they think this will scare everyone to go buy Webroot, Trend Micro, McAfee - the intelligence cooperative alternatives, they're kidding themselves. Oh no! Best Buy stopped carrying it! Quick, everyone run and uninstall it. Even Neil Rubenking says he doesn't buy into the crap and will continue to recommend Kaspersky as one of his top recommendations.
 

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By the way this is my first post...hello MalwareTips world!
Glad to have you here, Mindware.
But why would they? Kaspersky is private company.
If I had to guess I'd imagine because it flows nicely with the allegations that Kaspersky has direct ties Russian government.
If a company monitors their network traffic, sees an outbound connection to an unknown source, traces said source and it looks like it's going to a server owned by "Kaspersky" it only strengthens the US narrative against Kaspersky and the Russian state.
 

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Wouldn't surprise me if the US government is once again afraid of its own shadow. It wouldn't be the first time that one government agency hacked another without telling the other, and then there is a lot of commotion and panic until they found out later.
 
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Russias don't have retaliation capability or resilience like China. That's why USA keeps bashing Russia.

This is correct. The Russian surveillance state pales in comparison to China and the USA. They don't have even a fraction of the resources or retaliatory capability. So China gets away with anything they want while Russia becomes the boogyman.

Think about all of this.. One benefit of all of this is you know Kaspersky will be 'careful' NOT to give anyone anything to point fingers at them for. They'll probably be extra vigilant against US/Israeli sponsored malware/exploits, further infuriating those parties but better securing people that use Kaspersky! Don't be surprised if Kaspersky products become an even bigger thorn in the side of those parties..
 
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