FrFc1908

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Hello all. currently I am using the ( free ) beta version of Mbae. I also make use of Nvt Osarmor. I am fiddeling around with the idea of buying Hmpa. Can you guys give me some honoust opinions on to buy or not to buy hmpa and the pro's and con's please. feedback very much apreciated and big thanks in advance!! ;)
 
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MBAE is more basic than HMPA , less control and features, but surely less prone to issues/incompatibilities.

Honestly i tried both and HMPA is my favorite, but probably oriented to more techie users and has more features (cloud engine, basic keystroke encryption, USB protection, etc...).

If you have nothing better to do with your money, buy it , it is a good soft.
 

Spawn

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Hello all. currently I am using the ( free ) beta version of Mbae. I also make use of Nvt Osarmor. I am fiddeling around with the idea of buying Hmpa. Can you guys give me some honoust opinions on to buy or not to buy hmpa and the pro's and con's please. feedback very much apreciated and big thanks in advance!! ;)
Can you clarify if this is for Windows 10 with Qihoo 360 Security - as stated on your profile, or another config?

You want to avoid overlapping features with any existing real-time or OS features, as they are often the cause of conflicts.
 

Telos

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I would opt for MBAE + OSArmor (or OSArmor alone). HMPA was always problematic for me, requiring many tweaks to avoid conflicts with my softwares and OS (ex. it often mangled Alt-Tab on my laptop). For me HMPA was a royal headache. MBAE was always benign,... quietly sitting in the tray. It never once alerted (or maybe it was asleep on the job... who knows).

OSArmor at default settings is quiet. However optional settings can create FPs (you're warned about this). For me, I prefer NVT's RadarPro over OSA.
 

FrFc1908

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Ok thanks everybody for their input and experiences , sure there where incompatebillity issues in the past when I tested the beta , just like @Umbra did. @Spawn it is gonna be with 360 ts. after reading it all I think is is best , to stay with the config I have right now :) ;)
 
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plus Osarmor has antiexploit protection,
False. it is not a real anti-exploit protection, just some mechanism to prevent processes to abuse the listed apps; there is no in-memory protection, so no anti-exploit protection "a la" HMPA/MBAE/Windows Exploit Guard/EMET.

But doesnt OSArmor already cover everything that MBAE does? Or does it fill something thats OSA is missing?
not at all, people don't confound "post-exploit protection" with "anti-exploit protection"

It is not because your car can function under the rain that it can be a submarine...
 

Dave Russo

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False. it is not a real anti-exploit protection, just some mechanism to prevent processes to abuse the listed apps; there is no in-memory protection, so no anti-exploit protection "a la" HMPA/MBAE/Windows Exploit Guard/EMET.


not at all, people don't confound "post-exploit protection" with "anti-exploit protection"

It is not because your car can function under the rain that it can be a submarine...
False. it is not a real anti-exploit protection, just some mechanism to prevent processes to abuse the listed apps; there is no in-memory protection, so no anti-exploit protection "a la" HMPA/MBAE/Windows Exploit Guard/EMET.


not at all, people don't confound "post-exploit protection" with "anti-exploit protection"

It is not because your car can function under the rain that it can be a submarine...
Do you consider the settings tab on OSarmor {open configurator} to be a false definition of real anti-exploit protection?
 
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Do you consider the settings tab on OSarmor {open configurator} to be a false definition of real anti-exploit protection?
yep, real anti-exploit are HMPA , MBAE, Windows Exploit Guard (ex-EMET), or some modules in some AV suites.
basically tools that protect the memory space of a process to be modified. .

SurfRight’s real time anti-exploit technology focuses on detecting and preventing the memory manipulations and abuses that allow malicious code to run in the first place. Generic prevention of exploits at this early stage in the attack chain can help thwart malicious code in the processor and memory, before it can do serious damage.
We just made our next-gen endpoint offering even stronger with our acquisition of SurfRight

Using the term "anti-exploit" become trendy , many vendors use the term to add value to their soft.
They are not totally "wrong" because it is indeed protecting the said application to be "exploited" but they don't cover all the exploitation vectors as "real" anti-exploit software and they surely not protect the memory.
 

shmu26

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OSA is anti-exploit in the broader sense of the word. But technically, it is post-exploit protection: If an exploit succeeds in compromising your browser, or your PDF reader, etc etc, OSA will make sure it can't get its hands on the tools that these attacks typically use in the second stage -- such as powershell, for instance.

A "true" anti-exploit prevents the program from getting compromised in the first place.
 
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