I know they are totally different products. But I wonder which is better for securing the system from such as vulnerable programs and exploit payloads. Also resource usage is an important factor here, as I found ERP uses really much cpu cycle.
Comodo vs ERP v4?
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They don't have the same scope.
Comodo is for overall protection.
ERP is just anti-exe.
Both will protect you if the attack uses exes and other Lolbins.
For in-memory exploits, i won't put much faith on any of them.
What type of programs would you recommend for this type of attacks? Antivirus?
True Anti-Exploit:
1- Windows Exploit Protection (in Win10), accessible via Security Center. Requires good knowledge to setup custom rules, not for the beginners.
2- Hitman Pro Alert
3- Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit (in Malwarebytes Premium)
4- some AV suites may have this kind of components (Kaspersky IS for example).
2, 3 and 4 are the easiest to setup but still require some basic skills.
When it comes to securing your system from vulnerable programs and exploit payloads, comparing Comodo and ERP v4 is a bit like apples and oranges. Comodo is an antivirus and internet security suite designed to protect your system from malware and threats. ERP v4, on the other hand, is ERP software meant for managing business processes, not security.
For keeping your system safe from exploits, Comodo is definitely the way to go. It has all the security features like real-time scanning and a firewall to protect against threats. ERP software like ERP v4 doesn’t really focus on security features.
As for resource usage, Comodo is generally pretty efficient and shouldn’t hog too much of your system’s resources. ERP v4, however, can be quite heavy on CPU usage, especially when handling large amounts of data.
So, if security against vulnerabilities is your main concern, stick with Comodo. Just keep in mind that ERP software like ERP v4 is more about managing business tasks and not really about system security.
For keeping your system safe from exploits, Comodo is definitely the way to go. It has all the security features like real-time scanning and a firewall to protect against threats. ERP software like ERP v4 doesn’t really focus on security features.
As for resource usage, Comodo is generally pretty efficient and shouldn’t hog too much of your system’s resources. ERP v4, however, can be quite heavy on CPU usage, especially when handling large amounts of data.
So, if security against vulnerabilities is your main concern, stick with Comodo. Just keep in mind that ERP software like ERP v4 is more about managing business tasks and not really about system security.
Comodo presents itself as a set or suite of tools, but for years that stuff has been totally mediocre. Only the so-called "Containment" has some value.
However, that "Containment" is just a donkey blocker, which is supposed to block "unknown" files. I repeat, "Containment" has nothing to do with virus/malwares/zero-day-attacks etc detection. It can't differentiate a virus/malware form a safe file. "Containment" just blocks "unknown" files. So it's a simple binary blocker, without security technology. The main problem is that "Containment" is old, without updates/upgrades, and accumulates dangerous unfixed bugs, making it by-passable.
As I mentioned, all other Comodo' tools are mediocre, so if the "Containment" is disabled, then it's only a matter of time for users to be 100% infected.
Therefore, Comodo is not a Security System, at best, Comodo' "Containment" is just a safety measure or a security layer. Comodo can be perfectly replaced by manual customizations of the operating system.
PS01: Please allow me an alert, be careful with "new members" (same old known profiles, just with new accounts) talking about Comodo. Generally, they are paid people or fanatics promoting garbage.
PS02: Most of the comments here at MalwareTips' forum, are free subjective opinions. MalwareTips is not a Justice Court where evidences must be presented. It's a place mainly to share opinions. Suspected new members demanding evidences from participants, are not interested on debating.
The name of the strategy is SELECTIVITY. Most of the comments in favor or promoting Comodo are plain simple subjective opinions, with zero evidences. It's exactly the same with Comodo itself as a company, they never show evidences, nor of their most basic allegations. But if you disagree with Comodo/Supporters, or if you critic them, then according to them, you must present evidences.
To present evidences is a two way game. When SELECTIVELY someone demands evidences just to one side... that becomes an strategy to disqualify opinions.
That said, I'm a scientist, so personally I'm totally agree about presenting evidences. In the case of Comodo, I promise, I always will present evidences, if Comodo (or Comodo supporters) first they present evidences of their most basic allegations. The burden of proof has to fall first on Comodo and its supporters.
However, that "Containment" is just a donkey blocker, which is supposed to block "unknown" files. I repeat, "Containment" has nothing to do with virus/malwares/zero-day-attacks etc detection. It can't differentiate a virus/malware form a safe file. "Containment" just blocks "unknown" files. So it's a simple binary blocker, without security technology. The main problem is that "Containment" is old, without updates/upgrades, and accumulates dangerous unfixed bugs, making it by-passable.
As I mentioned, all other Comodo' tools are mediocre, so if the "Containment" is disabled, then it's only a matter of time for users to be 100% infected.
Therefore, Comodo is not a Security System, at best, Comodo' "Containment" is just a safety measure or a security layer. Comodo can be perfectly replaced by manual customizations of the operating system.
PS01: Please allow me an alert, be careful with "new members" (same old known profiles, just with new accounts) talking about Comodo. Generally, they are paid people or fanatics promoting garbage.
PS02: Most of the comments here at MalwareTips' forum, are free subjective opinions. MalwareTips is not a Justice Court where evidences must be presented. It's a place mainly to share opinions. Suspected new members demanding evidences from participants, are not interested on debating.
The name of the strategy is SELECTIVITY. Most of the comments in favor or promoting Comodo are plain simple subjective opinions, with zero evidences. It's exactly the same with Comodo itself as a company, they never show evidences, nor of their most basic allegations. But if you disagree with Comodo/Supporters, or if you critic them, then according to them, you must present evidences.
To present evidences is a two way game. When SELECTIVELY someone demands evidences just to one side... that becomes an strategy to disqualify opinions.
That said, I'm a scientist, so personally I'm totally agree about presenting evidences. In the case of Comodo, I promise, I always will present evidences, if Comodo (or Comodo supporters) first they present evidences of their most basic allegations. The burden of proof has to fall first on Comodo and its supporters.
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kailyn
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Please provide proof.
Please show us the dangerous bugs and how virtualization can be bypassed.
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Not even manual, by default Microsoft Edge blocks dodgy websites (good percentage of them), as well as executables that are not proven to be reputable. SAC now blocks unsigned executables and modules as well and Defender is quite good at blocking malware. For a general home user who doesn’t engage in risky habits, the default Windows security setup is enough.
Should it be insufficient, there is an ocean of quality security software from reputable vendors, readily available to increase users overall security posture. Software that is actively maintained and updated.
Some is free, some is cheap. If that’s not enough, there are business-grade products as well.
There are ways for someone to disable unnecessary portions of the OS (LOLBins and script interpreters), with the official MS recommendation for the last 20 years being “disable it if you don’t need it”.
Comodo containment is one unnecessary, overblown layer that causes more problems than it solves. Software contained by Comodo rarely functions properly as developers intended and suffers performance degradation, whilst contained malware will most likely exit.
The firewall is another unnecessary layer as nowadays routers are firewalled and a software firewall is there just to block internal threats (for example when you will be sharing a house with someone).
kailyn
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- Jun 6, 2024
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Not true at all. You have an opinion and that opinion is built upon something. Please provide us with the basis of your opinions.
You are critical of Comodo and there is no issue with that. The way that works, and the right thing to do, is to provide evidence that supports the claims that you make about the product(s).
It does not work like this... "First Comodo must provide proofs before I will supply my evidences."
You have a right to your opinions but that does not make your opinions valid. Actually, you make very concrete, assertions about Comodo such as "It has dangerous bugs." You very clearly know what those bugs are. Well then, show us those bugs and how they are dangerous.
Would you please demonstrate how programs do not function in Comodo containment and\or "performance degradation"? Also show us how "malware will most likely exit"?
Thank You
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kailyn
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OK, I will call your bluff. Send a payment link via PM. I can afford £79.99 + VAT.
At least @cruelsister and others make videos that prove that the product works. She never claimed that CIS does not have problems. In fact, she has acknowledged multiple problems and that is why she says to keep it simple by configuring the product in a way to avoid those issues. She has no responsibility and obligation to make videos that reveal bugs or other problems.
You and @Decopi keep saying the same things over-and-over about CIS. Prove what you are saying.
I'll tell you what.. if you do send a link and I pay, then you better provide proof via credible video demonstrations. Otherwise you should leave this forum. Is that fair?
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What we are saying has been proven times and times again, just search online.
Couple of quick facts:
- In 2024, nobody even cares about Comodo. If you stop 20 people on the street and ask them what Comodo is, they woldn't even know. If you ask them what Norton and McAfee is, probably 15 of them will tell you.
- IT experts may know Xcitium but are unlikely to use it, unless the company is on a very low budget. Xcitium customers (link here: Xcitium Customer Testimonials | Endpoint Security) are not at all impressive compared to the customers of other brands (Broadcom Symantec, McAfee/Trellix, Palo Alto and many others). Some of these customers are businesses like peri-peri chicken place.
- Xcitium revenue (link here: https://www.datanyze.com/companies/xcitium/566128954) proves that both Comodo and Xcitium are just small fishes (sardenes) in an ocean of sharks with revenue on the billion scale (Combined Gen digital revenue of Avast and Norton for last year was almost 4 BN). This is evidence that none of the two brands (Comodo and Xcitium), shine with incredible customer base.
- The fact that individuals and businesses are unwilling to use Comodo/Xcitium (directly proven by low revenue), shows that these products are either:
- not all that great or
- great, but not needed or
- terribly marketed or
- Xcitium lacks strong partners (Value Added Resselers/MSSPs) which again proves the low interest towards the products.
This is not the parliament here. You are confused again. Where do you think you are? I've contributed to this forum a lot more than you. Your only activities are associated with praising Comodo and nothing else.
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rashmi
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Whether you're a fan, a hater, or anything in between, there's no denying the undeniable influence of COMODO... Come On, Make Our Day Outstanding! 
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All these new profiles here go above and beyond to make our day smashing. Thank you, new profiles! You bring loads of positive emotions and laughter.Whether you're a fan, a hater, or anything in between, there's no denying the undeniable influence of COMODO... Come On, Make Our Day Outstanding!
Me and Decopi will keep working hard to ensure that you get the relevant and much needed adrenaline boost, you seek by registering here.
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I have no goose in this fight, I just personally dislike the owner of Commodo i.e. Melih since the time he got rid of Kevin and Stacy from BoCLean and I vowed to never use their products again. I know it might seem like a silly and a child stance, however the only thing that's mine is integrity and thus I stand by my decision. I am glad that @kailyn joined this forum, we can finally experience the softer and gentler side of Melih.
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I am ready to conduct a social experiment for the people that keep claiming Comodo is highly successful and has an insane number of downloads.
I will register a dating profile (with the pictures of a hot girl), talk to guys and girls and will tell them I work at Comodo. I will then ask them if they know what Comodo is (without Googling). We’ll see how many would have heard of Comodo.
Shall we do it?
I am ready to install Tinder.
Btw:
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kailyn
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That's not a measure of CIS's protection capabilities.
The whole point of Comodo products is that they are truly free. It's performance is very good relative to its cost. But of course it is not going to have the same level of market penetration compared to product with hundreds of millions of dollars behind it like CrowdStrike. You're not making apples to apples comparisons.
Revenue is a not a measure of protection capabilities. Independent third party test results are and according to that criteria Xcitium does quite well. It is competitive with brand name, much more expensive solutions.
If a company's revenue was a determinant of security product functionality and assurance, then Common Criteria (ISO 15408) would include it as a requirement in its Protection Profiles and Evaluation Assurance Levels.
The revenue you are quoting for Xcitium is not for the software.
Using customer base or revenue as evidence to claim "the software is garbage" is not accurate nor does it reveal much. Comodo\Xcitium do not market their products anywhere near the same level as other enterprise publishers. Most importantly, the products are "pet projects" of the owner who has stated he is not interested in spending the large sums of money to "promote" the products. Because they have zero revenue he has always utilized a passive marketing strategy. CIS and Xcitium have never been the company's primary focus in terms of business revenue. How could they be when they are 100% free softwares. So that the whole argument "CIS\Xcitium are garbage because there is so little revenue" becomes a fallacy.
In this respect it is no different than other software publishers. Software has bugs. None of those bugs have proven to be serious enough to be show stoppers. Unfixed bugs are not unique to Comodo. Every publisher in the industry does not fix every single reported bug. Kaspersky, Bitdefender, CrowdStrike, etc pick and choose which bugs they will fix. Go to the Bitdefender forum, for example, and there's always complaints about this or that bug. Same as on the Kaspersky, GData, WithSecure, Norton, and all the other product forums.
@cruelsister proves again and again that despite the bugs the CIS product still protects at a high level as does every independent third party test organization that Comodo has participated in.
Everyone here is willing to concede that Comodo is fatally flawed if you prove that it is fatally flawed - with your own test results. You cannot quote others or point to posts on another forum, YouTube, or whatever. That is not evidence. As far as Decopi, he is like a broken record making absurd assertions. He is only capable of unsubstantiated diatribes against Comodo because he does not even know how to test.
Nobody can take you seriously. Especially not after your argument that @cruelsister 's videos are mis- and dis-information campaigns that lure unsuspecting, unknowledgeable users into using the CIS product. It is even more ridiculous that you said her videos "take away users' freedom of choice." (paraphrase from the other thread that you made sure got locked).
It all comes down to one thing - either you can prove what you are claiming or you cannot. The fact is that you cannot.
CIS has about 1,000,000 downloads per year in India alone. I know as I lived there and I know that all zero cost software are extremely popular. When the TechSupportAlert freewares website was operational, CIS downloads was always in the millions. But downloads means little if you do not have the active install data to compare it to.
Nobody ever claimed that CIS has an "insane number of downloads." Nobody ever said that. Not here or anywhere else.
As far as using popularity as measure of anything that is just ridiculous. Just like the Pepsi taste challenge. If we're now going to use the answer to "Do you care about Comodo?" as a measure of a product then Avast Free smashes every security product out there except Microsoft Defender. Avast Free has the greatest number of installs and therefore it is the most popular product. That popularity means it is the most effective. LOL, yeah. Sure thing.
Social feedback and opinion polls do not prove anything.
You and Decopi keep making claims but neither of you ever prove anything. At least @cruelsister puts a lot of effort into her demonstration vids. The whole "You did not download the file from the internet so there is no MOTW, therefore your test is invalid" argument is amateur hour theatrics. In India, the second leading source of infections are shared infected USB flash drives. So testing files from the desktop is entirely a legitimate and accurate demonstration of capabilities.
If @cruelsister 's videos are so unrepresentative of the truth about Comodo, then prove them wrong. She does it all the time to show a $0 cost security software provides the same level of protection, or even better, than all those software with big marketing budgets, large userbase, and say "We are the best. You are protected." Those supposedly superior products are frequently bypassed and user systems are infected whereas CIS has only a handful of proven, legitimate bypasses.
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I can, but I am here for the entertainment and to trigger fanboys. Why would I waste my time in proving anything whatsoever, about software that nobody even cares about (refer to a poll that I made and see the results).
I am looking for bypasses and issues in products that are hot — Comodo is not.
Xcitium is mostly paid software though but it is inexpensive. Again, you get what you pay for.
You are claiming that right now. Downloads are not measure of success. Eset recently claimed that they’ve got 1BN users.
But are we like obliged to prove anything though?
Are we being trialed in court or something?
I didn’t define these products. Can you provide evidence that businesses or individuals suffered data loss and/or other damage as a result of these undefined, superior products not being able to do their job correctly?
Yet this is what you use in your post, Gartner reviews
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