Danielx64

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Well I figured that the "Activation errors" issue would crop up when a new update like this come out - my guess that many people would be doing the upgrade at once.

Blue Screen of Death errors on install: How many of those checked to see if they need to remove some software before the upgrade? Or rather do clean install.
 

Lockdown

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Well I figured that the "Activation errors" issue would crop up when a new update like this come out - my guess that many people would be doing the upgrade at once.

Blue Screen of Death errors on install: How many of those checked to see if they need to remove some software before the upgrade? Or rather do clean install.
Typical users do not know anything about Windows activation or clean installs. Typical users will consider any such upgrade related problems totally unacceptable.
 

mlnevese

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I had problems with Kaspersky and Adguard hanging and causing general system slowdowns after the update. I had to force uninstall both as the normal uninstaller said I didn't have the required permission on an admin account... Now everything is fine but next time I'll remember to uninstall both before upgrading :)
 
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plat1098

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Had standalone security software; just exited/disabled those. An indirect effect of the Fall CU: I applied a setting to what turned out to be a deprecated feature in the latest OS via group policy and this feature--Block Untrusted Fonts--wasn't in Microsoft's list of removed/deprecated items. Startup was affected with event id 1085 so had to reset group policy and start over. That's it, really minor considering one machine had a messy time of it. Event viewers are clean so far, everything works. If problems develop, I'll resort to a clean install--Windows update gets one chance to get it right the first time. :)
 

SHvFl

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If you don't have backups and jump the gun on an upgrade you might have a bad time. I would assume most people here know that but the general user has no idea that his pc is even going to update. MS is just dropping the ball and not testing their product enough.
 

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If you don't have backups and jump the gun on an upgrade you might have a bad time. I would assume most people here know that but the general user has no idea that his pc is even going to update. MS is just dropping the ball and not testing their product enough.
People want reliability and stability way more than new features and security updates.

The average PC user could care less about Microsoft's bullshit reasons for forced updates, lack of testing, etc.
 

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The only issue i have with them is their freaking slow updates, like 1.5 hour for a 4 gb update are you kidding me?
Windows 10 updates are no better than Windows 7 updates. The only reason Windows 10 updates seem better than Windows 7, is that the volume of Windows 10 updates is much smaller. However, problem-wise, both W10 and 7 updates are equally problematic.
 

Andy Ful

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If you don't have backups and jump the gun on an upgrade you might have a bad time. I would assume most people here know that but the general user has no idea that his pc is even going to update. MS is just dropping the ball and not testing their product enough.
Windows 10 is the OS revolution. People do not like any revolution, because it always causes many victims. This is especially dangerous when you are not loyal to the revolutionists and sympathize with the enemy (Kaspersky, Bitdefender, Comodo, etc.).:devil:
 

Andy Ful

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The number one request from an average Joe user is that they do not want any problems and unexpected stuff from the OS nor any installed programs. In that regard, the entirety of IT is a miserable failure.
The administrators in Enterprises dislikes such problems too. They found out the solution - do not update if you do not have to. Use Windows policies, network IDS, SRP (AppLocker) or AppGuard to lock the system.
An average Joe with Windows 10 home is defenseless. He can try to stick with Defender + Edge + Universal Applications - that tactics can save many potential 'update/upgrade victims', but not all. Another way is finding someone who can recover from the 'update/upgrade disaster'.