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Prorootect

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Every visible institutions seem to be downplaying the risks of this thing with some sleight of hand. Weird considering medias love sensationalism.
YES, Handsome Recluse, you're right!

This is the Truth: Mainstream media blacklists the news to keep the public in the dark as the pandemic spreads.

By paraphrasing a famous man:
This is a horrible and very unfair situation. The real news is on the other side, but they're being stifled to spread propaganda. We cannot allow prevailing these fake news, lies, cover ups, censorship!

Some real news websites which speak about China Wuhan pneumonia (pandemic now) caused by novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV), I've confidence:

PeakProsperity.com: ALERT: Coronavirus Pandemic Event Now A Serious Risk | Peak Prosperity
FluTrackers Forum: Forums - FluTrackers News and Information
HalTurnerRadioShow.com: Home
Reddit/cvnews: r/cvnews
Natural News: NaturalNews.com

Badiucao Twitter account: 巴丢草 Badiucao (@badiucao) | Twitter
Radio Free Asia: Radio Free Asia
TheEpochTimes.com: World - The Epoch Times
ZeroHedge.com: Articles | Zero Hedge
Abacus News: Abacus
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oldschool

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Coronavirus could infect 60% of world population

The coronavirus epidemic could spread to about two-thirds of the world’s population if it cannot be controlled, according to Hong Kong’s leading public health epidemiologist.

His warning came after the head of the World Health Organization (WHO) said recent cases of coronavirus patients who had never visited China could be the “tip of the iceberg”.

Prof Gabriel Leung, the chair of public health medicine at Hong Kong University, said the overriding question was to figure out the size and shape of the iceberg. Most experts thought that each person infected would go on to transmit the virus to about 2.5 other people. That gave an “attack rate” of 60-80%.

“Sixty per cent of the world’s population is an awfully big number,” Leung told the Guardian in London, en route to an expert meeting at the WHO in Geneva on Tuesday.

Even if the general fatality rate is as low as 1%, which Leung thinks is possible once milder cases are taken into account, the death toll would be massive.


What are super-spreaders and how are they transmitting coronavirus?


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He will tell the WHO meeting that the main issue is the scale of the growing worldwide epidemic and the second priority is to find out whether the drastic measures taken by China to prevent the spread have worked – because if so, other countries should think about adopting them.


The Geneva meeting brings together more than 400 researchers and national authorities, including some participating by video conference from mainland China and Taiwan. “With 99% of cases in China, this remains very much an emergency for that country, but one that holds a very grave threat for the rest of the world,” the WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in his opening remarks. To date China has reported 42,708 confirmed cases, including 1,017 deaths, Tedros said.

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Prorootect

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...and here too, on express.co.uk:
Coronavirus warning: Disease could kill 50 million if lockdown fails, warns expert
THE escalating coronavirus outbreak could claim around 50 million lives as a result of infecting 60 percent of the world's population, a Hong Kong-based expert has warned - and that's assuming a mortality rate of just one percent....
Professor Gabriel Leung has said it may not be possible to contain the virus...
If the 60 percent figures is accurate, given the world’s estimated population of 7.7billion, this would mean 4.6 billion people infected with the disease...
Here on express.co.uk: Coronavirus warning: Disease could kill 50 million if lockdown fails, warns expert
 

Prorootect

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It seems to me that the real mortality rate is 2.5%
Survival rates:
Mild status (82 / 100) = 100% survival
Serious status (14 / 100) = 6% survival
Critical status (4 / 100) = 1% survival

With these data outlined, then, what is the total number of deaths per 100 people who are infected?
To get the answer, we first calculate the number of survivors: (0.82 x 100) + (0.06 x 14) + (0.01 * 4) = 82 + 0.84 + 0.04 = 82.88
So we know there are 83 survivors out of every 100 infected patients.
That means there are 17 who do not survive (i.e. deaths). That’s another way of saying the mortality rate is 17%, by the way....
Note carefully that this is almost entirely based on numbers coming out of China that the Chinese government is trying to spin as “good news.”
It’s also very consistent with the early study out of The Lancet that documented a 15% mortality rate among those who are infected.
The WHO is trying to tell us that only 2% of infected people die, but the real numbers now look a lot closer to 15% – 17%, at least for anyone who can do math. ...
More (with the link to Lancet article): on newstarget.com:
DO THE MATH: China holds “good news” press conference, accidentally admits the coronavirus mortality rate is closer to 17 per cent

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Things seem increasingly quiet because information is being controlled. There is disinformation interspersed with the truth, and sometimes there is no information at all.

Then, we get hold of an official government document like the one here:





TRANSLATION:
The local village has had sixteen (16) confirmed cases of Corona Virus. Of those, seven (7) have DIED. The remaining nine (9) are in serious condition. THere are also fifty-two (52) more cases awaiting testing, where people are very sick with fevers.

Folks, 16 cases with seven deaths is a fatality rate of 43.75%.
Read MORE here: on halturnerradioshow.com :
We Are in GRAVE DANGER; Virus Outbreak Cannot Be Stopped; 43.75% Fatality Rate
 
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Prorootect

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China's Fatal Dilemma
Ending the limited quarantine and falsely proclaiming China safe for visitors and business travelers will only re-introduce the virus to workplaces and infect foreigners.
China faces an inescapably fatal dilemma:
to save its economy from collapse, China's leadership must end the quarantines soon and declare China "safe for travel and open for business" to the rest of the world.
But since 5+ million people left Wuhan to go home for New Years, dispersing throughout China, the virus has likely spread to small cities, towns and remote villages with few if any coronavirus test kits....
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But if China doesn't "open for business" with unrestricted travel soon, its economy will suffer calamitous declines as fragile mountains of debt and leverage collapse and supply chain disruptions push global corporations to find permanent alternatives elsewhere.


Here's the fatal dilemma:



  • maintaining the quarantine long enough to truly contain it (which requires extending it to the entire country) will be fatal to China's economy.

  • But ending the limited quarantine and falsely proclaiming China safe for visitors and business travelers will only re-introduce the virus to workplaces and infect foreigners who will return home as asymptomatic carriers, spreading the virus in their home nations....

...read more on zerohedge.com: China's Fatal Dilemma

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Prorootect

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2/11 #Coronavirustruth #coronavirus ROL regulates human behavior with law; religion does the same with morality. Both can help society in order. There is none in China. Video showed a suspicious infected woman touched every door handle of the cars parking on the street. Scary!
HERE on Twitter:

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BREAKING: 44 new cases of coronavirus on (Diamond Princess) cruise ship near Tokyo, raising total to 218:
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Just received the latest news, the number of #WuhanPneumonia
Chinese new confirmed 3069363 people
250,488 deaths
This is the data for the previous 2 days

HERE:

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runrunblue(no.2)@2Runrunblue
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I must tell all my friends that I don't have the ability to verify the numbers circulating on the Internet, but these numbers are all closer to the facts than the CCP government announced. Please judge by math and science.



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US Military Initiates "Global Campaign Plan For Pandemic"
Here on zerohedge.com: US Military Initiates "Global Campaign Plan For Pandemic"



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CHINA CITIES DECLARE MARTIAL LAW OVER VIRUS OUTBREAK; U.S. MILITARY ORDERED TO PREPARE FOR PANDEMIC DUTY - "CONTAINMENT" - CHINA FACTORIES TO REMAIN CLOSED TO MAY 1 - STOCK AND CORPORATE DOOM
-here on halturnerradioshow.com: CHINA CITIES DECLARE MARTIAL LAW OVER VIRUS OUTBREAK; U.S. MILITARY ORDERED TO PREPARE FOR PANDEMIC DUTY - "CONTAINMENT" - CHINA FACTORIES TO REMAIN CLOSED TO MAY 1 - STOCK AND CORPORATE DOOM
 
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bribon77

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The big problem, I see is that so far this virus is in countries that more or less can cope with it. The problem will be if this virus spreads to Africa, unfortunately there are African countries that will not be able to cope with this Virus. and it would affect many lives.
 

Prorootect

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Australian travel ban due to coronavirus upsets China, calls it ‘extreme’
The Australian government has drawn the ire of the Communist Party over its decision to continue the ban on anyone entering the country that has been in China during the past two weeks.
As of Friday, Feb. 14, foreign nationals who have been in mainland China will be unable to enter Australia for 14 days from the time they left there.
The Chinese Embassy in Australia has called the decision to extend the travel ban for another week as “extreme.”
Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said the government is sympathetic to the Chinese situation, but its main priority is to keep Australian citizens safe. “Our responsibility is to make sure that we keep Australians safe,” he told Today. “We will assess it week by week … we will be doing what is in our country’s best interests.”
“They want there to be a normalized arrangement and countries like Australia, like the UK, others, have decided to make sure that we deal with the difficulty that we face. We have brought people back who have been stuck in Wuhan,” he said.
“The medical advice was clear. Over the next week maybe that changes and maybe they take a different view. We are very conscious of the impact on the Australian economy, on tourism, on the international student market, and many other businesses that obviously are impacted,” he added.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison said on Thursday, “We did not take this decision lightly,” adding, “We are very mindful of the disruption and economic impacts of these arrangements, but I note Australia is one of 58 countries that has introduced some form of travel restrictions,” reported 9 News.
The Chinese Embassy expressed its dissatisfaction with the ban, “We express our deep regret and dissatisfaction over the Australian government’s announcement,” it said in a statement. “Only Australia and a small number of countries have taken such extreme measures which are an overreaction indeed.”
The ban is to be reviewed in another week. Australian citizens and their immediate families, and permanent residents will still be allowed entry, they are required to self-isolate for 14 days.
There have been 15 reported cases of the coronavirus in Australia, six have been given the all-clear, with the remaining nine in a stable condition.

More than 200 Australians are in quarantine on the cruise ship the Diamond Princess in Japan, 11 of them have tested positive for the virus. A public health expert from Australia has been sent to the liner to help with the quarantine process and provide advice to the Japanese government.

Official figures for the number of infections worldwide is more than 60,000, with 1,370 recorded deaths. However, the numbers are expected to be much higher than that, as testing in China has been inaccurate due to a lack of test kits, and also the Communist government has tried to hide the total number of infections and deaths from the rest of the world.
Read: on thebl.com: Australian travel ban due to coronavirus upsets China, calls it ‘extreme’


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Beijing, Other Chinese Regions Declare ‘State of War’ Over Coronavirus Outbreak
Read on theepochtimes.com: Beijing, Other Chinese Regions Declare ‘State of War’ Over Coronavirus Outbreak
 

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Prorootect

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China Is Disintegrating: Steel Demand, Property Sales, Traffic All Approaching Zero
In our ongoing attempts to glean some objective insight into what is actually happening "on the ground" in the notoriously opaque China, whose economy has been hammered by the Coronavirus epidemic, yesterday we showed several "alternative" economic indicators such as real-time measurements of air pollution (a proxy for industrial output), daily coal consumption (a proxy for electricity usage and manufacturing) and traffic congestion levels (a proxy for commerce and mobility), before concluding that China's economy appears to have ground to a halt.

That conclusion was cemented after looking at some other real-time charts which suggest that there is a very high probability that China's GDP in Q1 will not only flatline, but crater deep in the red for one simple reason: there is no economic activity taking place whatsoever.

We start with China's infrastructure and fixed asset investment, which until recently accounted for the bulk of Chinese GDP. As Goldman writes in an overnight report, in the Feb 7-13 week, steel apparent demand is down a whopping 40%, but that's only because flat steel is down "only" 12% Y/Y as some car plants have ordered their employee to return to work (likely against their will as the epidemic still rages).





However, it is the far more important - for China's GDP - construction steel sector where apparent demand has literally hit the bottom of the chart, down an unprecedented 88% Y/Y or as Goldman puts it, "construction steel demand is approaching zero."





But wait, there's more.

Courtesy of Capital Economics, which has compiled a handy breakdown of real-time China indicators, we can see the full extent of just how pervasive the crash in China's economy has been...
MORE: on zerohedge.com : China Is Disintegrating: Steel Demand, Property Sales, Traffic All Approaching Zero


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US Market news - very good: Market News
  • Nasdaq +0.21% 9,731.18 Feb 14, 3:59 PM

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Chinese Experts Warn Of Imminent "Surge" In Coronavirus Cases: Virus Updates

Unfortunately, it looks like the data dump (which was blamed on a pro forma death accounting) was only the beginning. Because Chinese health officials warned Friday afternoon that despite a drop on Thursday, they expect a "surge" of cases in the coming days.


Chinese experts said that there may be a surge on #COVID19 confirmed recently as more cities outside #Wuhan in Hubei include clinically diagnosed cases and medical staff may face more pressure. Too early for optimism despite drop in new virus cases - Global Times pic.twitter.com/VxTXudTzpm
— Global Times (@globaltimesnews) February 14, 2020
Hubei confirmed 4,823 new cases on Thursday, including 3,095 cases diagnosed via X-Ray or CAT scan showing evidence of pneumonia. That was a sudden plunge from the previous day's total of 14,840 new cases including 13,332 clinically diagnosed cases. On Thursday, 116 deaths were reported in Hubei, down from Wednesday's 242.


And as the lockdown in Wuhan intensifies...


Whatever you have done, or whoever you are , do you deserve being treated like this? One of the many scenes in #China during #CoronavirusOutbreak 一场#武汉肺炎 疫情,将多少的丑陋展现在世人眼前。#新冠肺炎 #全民反抗 #全民自救 #全民互救 pic.twitter.com/PG6rJyl2a2
— 曾錚 Jennifer Zeng (@jenniferatntd) February 14, 2020
Girl wailing when mother’s body driven away. Her father already died 20 days ago. One of the many scenes in #China during the #coronavirusoutbreak #COVID_2019 妈妈被拉走了,爸爸 20天前也以死于 #武汉肺炎 #新冠肺炎 pic.twitter.com/FLmMHfMDx7
— 曾錚 Jennifer Zeng (@jenniferatntd) February 14, 2020
Of course, there's little point in lying to people if you're planning on telling them the "truth" the next day, so at least we understand the reason for the warning. But the news is breaking during the early morning hours of Saturday in China....
MORE: Chinese Experts Warn Of Imminent "Surge" In Coronavirus Cases: Virus Updates
 

plat1098

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I've never taken the flu vaccine(n) and will never take coronavirus vaccine(n).
Your choice. I was going to tease a little but changed my mind. It's a serious subject.

To those who knock the vaccine, well I can only ask: why didn't the Chinese develop it first? They had the virus's genetic material for months already. Money, yeah, so? So what? This vaccine, if in fact its presence is legit, is going to save many lives. That's for starters. Not sure this isn't entirely legit news, though, so here's another source, from a generally-trusted and respected American news agency.

 
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