Question Gryphon - the worlds most powerful AI Router.

Burrito

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Yeah where is that dude Slyguy?

Yeah.... Sly was a little bit unhappy with a few things here at MT-Ville. He sent me a PM indicating that he might just 'disappear' one day.

I don't think we've seen the last of Sly -- at least I hope not. Sly and I go way back -- in message board years. A message board year is half of a dog year.

Even with his 'tin foil leanings' -- he's a good dude and value added.
 

Vitali Ortzi

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Yeah.... Sly was a little bit unhappy with a few things here at MT-Ville. He sent me a PM indicating that he might just 'disappear' one day.

I don't think we've seen the last of Sly -- at least I hope not. Sly and I go way back -- in message board years. A message board year is half of a dog year.

Even with his 'tin foil leanings' -- he's a good dude and value added.
Every one here misses you Slyguy where ever you are !
And yes 99% of my comments in this fourm is full of crap at best .
But only truthful thing is I miss your insightful perspective and jokes .
God bless you Slyguy !
Come back!
 
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blackice

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For the couple other people who confirmed the DNS leak when using a manual DNS. I asked Gryphon for an update a couple days ago on the situation. Not only had they confirmed the issue, they have a firmware ready to fix and offered to push it to my router. It pushed last night and the issue is fixed. Not sure when the next firmware push is due, but you could also inquire about it. Or, it’ll be fixed in the next release. It does in fact resolve DNS queries properly again! I’m very happy!
 

valvaris

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blackice

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Hi,

a question is there any chance to get a Gryphon router here in Europe?

The site itself (Gryphon) just deliveres to the U.S. -.-

On Amazon the product is listed but since a long long time not available...

Sincerely
Val.
Due to the virus outbreak they have been low on stock lately. They do have a UK site, I think, but I'm not sure about Europe.
 

brij

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Is someone has a wifi signal issue with a gryphon? I am frustrated by its weak signal issue.

If I sit next to the router, I get 75% signal
I move 10 feet away, the signal drops around 15 to 20%

If I go to my bedroom, which is like 20 feet away from the router, I hardly get 40 to 50% signal. Speed is drastically reduced when I am in bedroom.

Even when I sit next to the router, I hardly get full internet speed. (i have 100MBPS plan). If I connect directly via ethernet, I get 100+ Mbps, but via wifi, I get around 60 to 70 MBPS.

Any hints , what can be done. I cant return also, now it is more than a couple months.

Thanks
Brijesh
 

Cortex

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Normally I would use eBay but it's not anything like a normal router, will probably just give it to a relative or a friend, as I've sold hundreds of routers on eBay & I'm no longer inclined to be a support service for people who ought to leave things to those who understand - I have 100% on there & no losing it over a router :):):)
 

Stu M

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After using gryphon for a few mos i have to say i am pretty happy. I have added two more devices for full house coverage.
Question i have is what is the roadmap of gryphon, are they going to support IPv6, dns over https or tls?
Are they going to partner with any other services to enhance the platform...
Hopefully they have some black friday deals to added a yr of support....

I replaced bitdefender box 2 with gryphon and very happy for the most part..
 

bstonge

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I'm new to this board but found that it is the most insightful and informative board on the Gryphon on the Internet! Just got the Gryphon last week. Has anyone had any issues with connecting to Plex. I've been using Plex for years and this is the first router that is giving me issues. I forwarded the ports and tried putting the server in unmanaged mode but still can't connect to the server externally. Funny enough, Plex says that it is connected and available for remote connections. This leads me to believe the Gryphon is blocking the incoming connections to the server. I'm running plex on Win 10 PC. I opened a support ticket with no fix as of yet...
 

bstonge

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I'm new to this board but found that it is the most insightful and informative board on the Gryphon on the Internet! Just got the Gryphon last week. Has anyone had any issues with connecting to Plex. I've been using Plex for years and this is the first router that is giving me issues. I forwarded the ports and tried putting the server in unmanaged mode but still can't connect to the server externally. Funny enough, Plex says that it is connected and available for remote connections. This leads me to believe the Gryphon is blocking the incoming connections to the server. I'm running plex on Win 10 PC. I opened a support ticket with no fix as of yet...
I thought I should give an update to everyone because i fixed the issue.

1) I contacted support and they sent an update to my router. At first this didn't work.

2) Although UPnP is enabled, I manually port forwarded 32400 external to 32400 internal (BOTH). This didn't work although the Plex Server said remote connection is working.

3) I was using an old network switch that I changed out.

4) I contacted support again and they resent the update

5) Although 32400 is the port Plex uses by default I checked the box to manually set the port and chose 32400 in the Plex Server. Plex fully connected after this and I could access it!!

6) My phone app would still not connect so I cleared the app data and BINGO!

Its all up and running now :)

I hope this helps anyone else that runs into this problem. I really like this gryphon router but it's definitely more limited I when you need to customize things. I can't remember the last time I had to contact support for any of my devices let alone a router...

Good luck :)
 

blackice

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I thought I should give an update to everyone because i fixed the issue.

1) I contacted support and they sent an update to my router. At first this didn't work.

2) Although UPnP is enabled, I manually port forwarded 32400 external to 32400 internal (BOTH). This didn't work although the Plex Server said remote connection is working.

3) I was using an old network switch that I changed out.

4) I contacted support again and they resent the update

5) Although 32400 is the port Plex uses by default I checked the box to manually set the port and chose 32400 in the Plex Server. Plex fully connected after this and I could access it!!

6) My phone app would still not connect so I cleared the app data and BINGO!

Its all up and running now :)

I hope this helps anyone else that runs into this problem. I really like this gryphon router but it's definitely more limited I when you need to customize things. I can't remember the last time I had to contact support for any of my devices let alone a router...

Good luck :)
Glad you fixed it. I have had zero luck with UPnP on their router. They know it doesn’t play well with game consoles and just recommend setting up port forwarding.

I’m very torn on the gryphon. It’s very secure, but not always user friendly and potentially overkill for the home environment security wise. On the other hand pretty much every other router brand has security issues pop up regularly. It feels like a game of pick the less worst option. I will say this, the thing is solid and has an incredible signal. But the couple of times I’ve had problems it has been a real pain to work with because of the lack of information or options.
 

Slyguy

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Hello all, I've been hopelessly busy! Anyway...

Gryphon AX is out, and one of the major retailers has it in stock.

I got my unit today, very very powerful! Anyone else?

Specs off the retailers website;

Next Gen WiFi 6 Technology
  • Tri-band 2.4GHz and 2x 5GHz bands AX4300
    Three simultaneous Wi-Fi radios for more bandwidth to every device on the network.
  • 4x4 MU-MIMO
    Advanced WiFi with multiple streams of data for optimal throughput performance, eliminating bandwidth bottlenecking during concurrent device usage.
  • WiFi Mesh Whole-Home Coverage
    Each Gryphon mesh router covers up to 3000 sq. ft. to eliminate dead spots in the home.*
  • Optimize Network Health
    Qualcomm's WiFi-SON technology that self-configures and self-organizes your WiFi to enhance overall performance of the network.
  • Prioritize Device Bandwidth
    Bandwidth priority to a select device as needed for
    improved quality of service (QoS).

Advanced Network Protection*
  • Malware and Ransomware Protection
  • Gryphon protects every single device in the home on Gryphon's WiFi
  • 24/7 Intelligent Intrusion Detection. Gryphon uses machine learning to monitor all in-home devices; including smart home devices; to guard from
    potential hackers.
  • Block Phishing Links
    Gryphon automatically blocks phishing scams to ensure
    you'll not accidentally click on a malicious link.
  • Gryphon comes with a free 90 day trial of Advanced Network Protection that can be optionally extended for $7.50/month

Parental Control System
  • Control Content
    Enable or disable access to popular apps like YouTube,
    Facebook and Snapchat and execute real-time requests for website approvals instantly.
  • Regulate Screen Time
    Schedule homework time, bedtime, or simply pause the
    internet at any moment with a single click.
  • Filter Content Automatically
    Gryphon automatically blocks inappropriate websites using our CrowdRanking algorithm.
 

Slyguy

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@Slyguy I'm thinking of getting a Gryphon Guardian to add to our ISP-required modem. The modem currently covers our 1500 sq. ft. area and all devices to fit our needs. Will the Guardian be enough as an extra layer?🤔 All feedback is welcomed.
I assume you mean ISP router/modem combo? Something like a Cisco DG/TG Gateway? Hideous security on those. So yeah, Gryphon is going to provide some resoundingly good security to a largely insecure device. I'd bridge the ISP modem to the Gryphon.

As for lack of ethernet ports on AX, I think there are some statistics that only a tiny percentage of people used more than 1 LAN on any home router. One should probably have a switch in place if they need more ports. I have a 16 switch behind my Gryphon, but even a cheap 5 port would do the trick. I'd guess they looked at all of the unused ports and figured anyone wanting more would have (or could have) a small 5 port switch.

For me, I like a Layer 3 switch behind my router anyway for better management and flow control.

My unboxing of the Gryphon AX... So hot!

Gryphon4.jpg
 

woodrowbone

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Gryphon looks like a solid choice, but there is this little fellow called Firewalla that has been around since 2016 I think?
Did anyone use Firewalla who could compare it to Gryphon, they seem to be doing exactly the same stuff.
Firewallas big plus compared to Gryphon as I could see, is that you do not pay for updates, you buy a lifetime of those with the product :cool:
On the other side they do not provide wifi on their product, but of course this is easily solved with a discrete access point installed behind it instead.

FW is actively developed with a steady stream of updates, taking their users feedback and suggestions into their firmware.
For example you can install PiHole on some models.

I do not want to hijack this thread, maybe it is better to start a A vs B thread instead, or can we continue here, what say the mods?

I really wanna see these two go head to head, and there is no independent tests that I found in general with products like this.

Maybe Slyguy could take it for a spin?

/W
 
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