Now that Trump signed the ISP data collection protection repeal into law here is another good read on how to better protect yourself online.
Here’s How to Protect Your Privacy From Your Internet Service Provider
- Thread starter Kubla
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- Feb 13, 2017
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Protect our online privacy and, more in general, our digital life is a fundamental right.
For those who do not care about this, here's a quote from E. Snowden:
“People who say they don’t care about privacy because they have got nothing to hide have not thought too deeply about these issues. What they are really saying is I do not care about this right. When you say I don’t care about the right to privacy because I have nothing to hide, that is no different than saying I don’t care about freedom of speech because I have nothing to say or freedom of the press because I have nothing to write.”
For those who do not care about this, here's a quote from E. Snowden:
“People who say they don’t care about privacy because they have got nothing to hide have not thought too deeply about these issues. What they are really saying is I do not care about this right. When you say I don’t care about the right to privacy because I have nothing to hide, that is no different than saying I don’t care about freedom of speech because I have nothing to say or freedom of the press because I have nothing to write.”
- Jun 9, 2013
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A good interesting read there, thanks for the great share. 
- Jan 9, 2017
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Long live to Edward Snowden! Good quote my friend WS, i actually think that when i saw that article before i saw your post
- Jan 16, 2017
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All this because of those people who don't care about privacy. This is just the beginning, other countries will follow. They might even access your webcam someday. Measure your size and recommend products on that basis. "Improve your experience"
- Mar 22, 2017
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I don't care as long as they are not abusing, i always say.
But let's define "abusing":
But people don;t trust anybody these days, so everything seems like an abuse. And in many cases they are, maybe in most cases.
No matter what they collect, what they use afterwards, somebody will always get to suffer. Who decides based on what facts who gets the suffering?
But let's define "abusing":
- they don't sell my stuff to others in order to make money for themselves
- they don't use my stuff in order to spam me, to track me and to make my stuff available to the public
- this is a very sensitive and deeply personal scenario: would you agree that the government/law enforcement agencies use private data to find the man/woman who murdered your relative in cold blood?
But people don;t trust anybody these days, so everything seems like an abuse. And in many cases they are, maybe in most cases.
No matter what they collect, what they use afterwards, somebody will always get to suffer. Who decides based on what facts who gets the suffering?
- Jan 16, 2017
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And many times people "agree" to be collected because they don't read 20 pages long EULA and terms of services.
- Jan 9, 2017
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What makes world this kind? "Do not trust anybody-thing." Without those individual's advocate like E.S. That makes and not make me wonder why people don't trust even own shadow anymore! There really don't are normally people any power to speech! It's just a blow with a wind! Those who got the money and power don't listen nor care individuals! No human rights anymore or it had been long time that way, but when E.S puplish that thing it rose to flower.
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I'm waiting for it to happen in the UK so I can get my money's worth out of my VPN by keeping it on 24/7. Preferably after my NordVPN subscription runs out in June because it's bloody awful.
ISPs are already obligated by law to store all internet activity for 12 months (in the name of national security
) so I've no doubt it's only a matter of time.
- Mar 22, 2017
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They should read them. They shouldn't agree with them if something smells fishy... Those EULAs are there to protect mostly the companies, if you don't like them... don't agree.
This is the world we are living in unfortunately... I don't like it, but i really need to use software for example, and for this to happen, they force me to agree with everything they do, everything they collect...
The problem is EULAs are pretty much designed to obfuscate the general public. They're long and filled with completely incomprehensible nonsense that only lawyers can fully understand. I generally skim through the privacy policy of any software I plan on installing but expecting anybody to read through an entire EULA before installing software is completely unreasonable, and software developers know this and stick nasty little clauses like data collection in there because they know nobody actually reads them.
I think it was Mikko Hyppönen (of F-Secure fame) who said: “The biggest lie on the internet is ‘I have read and agree to the terms and conditions’”
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