Malware Hub Report MalwareTips - Kaspersky Report - March 2017

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All tests were conducted in protected virtual environment. Due to the small number of samples used in these tests, you should take results with a grain of salt. This test shows how the tested product behaves with certain malware samples, under unique circumstances, in a given period of time. Product’s malware detection rate is not an equivalent of protection. This should not be mixed up. MalwareTips encourage you to compare these results with others and take informed decisions on what security products to use.

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No, tests in general are in"Deafault settings" + PUP/Adware setting enabled. You can see the settings I used in every test I ran -> check spoilers ;) but during some time I used High Restricted to unknown files...

But probably I could run in future some extra tests with TAM on :)
 
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No, tests in general are in"Deafault settings" + PUP/Adware setting enabled. You can see the settings I used in every test I ran -> check spoilers ;) but during some time I used High Restricted to unknown files...

But probably I could run in future some extra tests with TAM on :)
If you run some tests with High Restricted for unknown files, isn't that almost like using Kaspersky in a default/deny mode?
 

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Pretty impressive.
@harlan4096, do you test with TAM enabled and trust sigs disabled?
Testing with TAM on would be like an Anti-exe. All the samples including scripts & dll's would be blocked if they are not trusted. Which they won't be if you have trust signatures disabled. Furthermore only a handful of samples are digitally signed.

So, it would be pointless to test it in TAM mode ON. Just my impression.

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Would enabling TAM protect the system more, or just default settings with AppGuard protect the system 100%?
 
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What about TAM On, Trust in digitally signed application off, High Restricted for unknown apps but KSN On? which have been usually my settings for long periods of time, sometimes disabling TAM... :)
I have that setting, except for TAM on. I don't use TAM. Instead i use VS.
 
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AppGuard is stronger than TAM -- but when you install software, you have to turn it off.
If a user has the bad habit of running iffy apps, TAM would be better.
IMO, i think TAM is a little strict for safe apps too. From time to time, Safe apps & their dll's gets blocked too. You have to constantly check the application manager to allow them. So, it gets a little tedious.
 

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IMO, i think TAM is a little strict for safe apps too. From time to time, Safe apps & their dll's gets blocked too. You have to constantly check the application manager to allow them. So, it gets a little tedious.
after a while it becomes your natural reflex to check the blocked list if something isn't working as intended. imo it's not big of a deal.
 

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What I like about TAM is that it's more than just an anti-exe, anti-script, anti-..., etc.. It also acts similar to AppGuard's MemoryGuard. TAM has predefined programs that it further monitors, so that anything out of the ordinary these programs do is blocked.

Anyway, this is a bit off-topic because the tests were done with TAM turned off. :p
 

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IMO, i think TAM is a little strict for safe apps too. From time to time, Safe apps & their dll's gets blocked too. You have to constantly check the application manager to allow them. So, it gets a little tedious.
Do the blocks happen even when you have internet connection? Mine only happened when internet connection was out.
 
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I have a question whether it is fair to test Kaspersky against other AVs, when Kaspersky has unknowns set to high restricted. That is a very strong tweak, and I am sure it affects the results.
Avast could turn on hardened mode/aggressive, and also get better results.
 

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I still don't fully understand how TAM works but I think it will get the reputation of the file from KSN, if the file is not present in KSN, it will be marked as untrusted, exactly like comodo firewall

I think if TAM is enabled, the protection would be 99.9-100% because only safe files are allowed to run. Unknown or unsafe files are all untrusted. TAM supports all file types so it's better than hardened mode, IMO

it's truly default-deny, no need for appguard
 

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I still don't fully understand how TAM works but I think it will get the reputation of the file from KSN, if the file is not present in KSN, it will be marked as untrusted, exactly like comodo firewall

I think if TAM is enabled, the protection would be 99.9-100% because only safe files are allowed to run. Unknown or unsafe files are all untrusted. TAM supports all file types so it's better than hardened mode, IMO

it's truly default-deny, no need for appguard
media.kaspersky.com/pdf/kaspersky_lab_whitepaper_trusted_applications_mode.pdf
 

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I have a question whether it is fair to test Kaspersky against other AVs, when Kaspersky has unknowns set to high restricted. That is a very strong tweak, and I am sure it affects the results.
Avast could turn on hardened mode/aggressive, and also get better results.
Avast in previous months was also tested in "hardened mode" in some tests ;)

I just changed to "High Restricted" to compare and check, but in general I test in Default Settings + PUP On.
 

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I still don't fully understand how TAM works but I think it will get the reputation of the file from KSN, if the file is not present in KSN, it will be marked as untrusted, exactly like comodo firewall

I think if TAM is enabled, the protection would be 99.9-100% because only safe files are allowed to run. Unknown or unsafe files are all untrusted. TAM supports all file types so it's better than hardened mode, IMO

it's truly default-deny, no need for appguard
TAM is not so black and white as you are describing it.
There is a low-restricted category, which most unknowns fall into. It is not very restrictive, except regarding the loading of DLLs, which TAM is indeed very strict about.
 

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