SeriousHoax

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I stepped away from my computer for dinner, halfway through writing a story for The Verge. When I got back, I couldn’t believe my eyes.

Windows 10 had restarted my computer without permission yet again — to install yet another forced OS update onto my solid state drive.

The craziest part: When my machine finished rebooting, it now contained the exact thing I’d been writing about before I was rudely interrupted. Microsoft had installed unsolicited, unwanted web app versions of Word, PowerPoint, Excel and Outlook onto my computer.

A screenshot of the web apps that Microsoft force-installed on my PC.
Seriously, the story you’re reading right now started off as a news post about this happening to other people. Screenshot: Sean Hollister/The Verge
OK, it’s not as bad as when my entire computer screen got taken over by an unwanted copy of Microsoft Edge. That was truly egregious.

No, this time Microsoft is merely sneaking unwanted web apps onto my PC — and using my Windows 10 Start Menu as free advertising space. Did I mention that icons for Microsoft Office apps have magically appeared in my Start Menu, even though I’ve never once installed Office on this computer?...................................................
Read the full article here
 

Soulbound

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And literally just finished rolling back to 1909 from 2004 followed by using WAU Manager.


Sledgehammer should also work, as well as Wu 10Man but I went WAU Manager route.

For those interested:
Sledgehammer available at MajorGeeks

WU10Man on Github
 
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geminis3

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Windows 10: forces updates and reboots your device without permission

Advanced users: time to install a Linux distro that puts me in control of the hardware I paid

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Advanced users: XYZ software doesn't works on WINE, going back to Windows 10

Rinse and repeat 🙃
 

Soulbound

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Windows 10: forces updates and reboots your device without permission

Advanced users: time to install a Linux distro that puts me in control of the hardware I paid

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Advanced users: XYZ software doesn't works on WINE, going back to Windows 10

Rinse and repeat 🙃
Let me fix it for you.

After 3 days, Adnvanced users will not mention anything so that their previous decision of going to a Linux Distro doesnt cause their "reputation" to be tainted.
 

security123

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Windows 10: forces updates and reboots your device without permission
I maintain 3 totally different PCs in my network and none ever reboot without permission.
And only my own PC use Pro. Other's only Home.

Advanced users: time to install a Linux distro that puts me in control of the hardware I paid
Advanced users know how to handle a OS.

Also Linux doesn't give you control about your hardware as a OS doesn't change hardware nor make that OpenSource ;)
 

TairikuOkami

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Some of the comments there are actually sad, like forced restarts are a myth. Forced restart will happen outside of active hours, you will even get a tray notification about it. I guess MS expect every user to be an expert. In the past Windows updated only when the user restarted or turned off the PC himself.

Code:
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "ContentDeliveryAllowed" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "OemPreInstalledAppsEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "PreInstalledAppsEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "PreInstalledAppsEverEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SilentInstalledAppsEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SoftLandingEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContentEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContent-310093Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContent-338388Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContent-338389Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContent-338393Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContent-353694Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContent-353696Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SystemPaneSuggestionsEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\PushToInstall" /v "DisablePushToInstall" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
reg add "HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\MRT" /v "DontOfferThroughWUAU" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
reg delete "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager\Subscriptions" /f
reg delete "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager\SuggestedApps" /f
 

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Local Host

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Some of the comments there are actually sad, like forced restarts are a myth. Forced restart will happen outside of active hours, you will even get a tray notification about it. I guess MS expect every user to be an expert. In the past Windows updated only when the user restarted or turned off the PC himself.

Code:
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "ContentDeliveryAllowed" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "OemPreInstalledAppsEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "PreInstalledAppsEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "PreInstalledAppsEverEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SilentInstalledAppsEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SoftLandingEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContentEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContent-310093Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContent-338388Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContent-338389Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContent-338393Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContent-353694Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SubscribedContent-353696Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager" /v "SystemPaneSuggestionsEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\PushToInstall" /v "DisablePushToInstall" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
reg add "HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\MRT" /v "DontOfferThroughWUAU" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
reg delete "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager\Subscriptions" /f
reg delete "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager\SuggestedApps" /f
Microsoft does force updates on outdated systems, but they need to be extremely behind, and I support them for this, outdated systems are a risk to everyone online (not only themselves).

As for the suggestions on start menu, they can easily be disabled, during and after Windows 10 Setup, so this is a case of someone who doesn't know how to use his PC, so I'm not surprised he got forced to update (he probably behind on updates for months or even years).
 

RoboMan

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Windows 10: forces updates and reboots your device without permission

Advanced users: time to install a Linux distro that puts me in control of the hardware I paid

View attachment 247534

Advanced users: XYZ software doesn't works on WINE, going back to Windows 10

Rinse and repeat 🙃
#About_Me

I do this at least once a year, it's frustrating af. Still can't understand how Linux is trying so bad to replace MacOS and Windows but can't do something to offer devs an easier way for software compatibility between OS. It's the eternal dilemma. I'm sure 90% of us would switch to Linux without a doubt if all our daily software was there.
 

Soulbound

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#About_Me

I do this at least once a year, it's frustrating af. Still can't understand how Linux is trying so bad to replace MacOS and Windows but can't do something to offer devs an easier way for software compatibility between OS. It's the eternal dilemma. I'm sure 90% of us would switch to Linux without a doubt if all our daily software was there.
and yet dual boot solves everything :)
 

Cortex

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I had a heap of unwanted Office Icons (apps) installed during the last Patch Tuesday along with New Edge, I was running an early version off the October Update (20H2) - The cumulative Update was for 20H2 - I imaged back to 2004 & when I did the similar cumulative update on 2004 no problems occurred - Maybe somewhere I gave MS permission to do anything it wants to when using insider builds? - I've never had a forced restart as I remember.
 
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Raiden

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Nobody does this in a serious way.

Also windows can run Linux as subsystem. No need for maintain dual boot ;)

It is true!

I think it all depends on your use case. Those who want to use Linux full time, but want to still use non-hardware demanding tasks(ie: office) a VM is more than enough. Something like gaming a dual boot is more preferred as you get better performance compared to a VM. Those who just want to dabble in Linux, but use Windows full time...a VM, or WSL is easier to maintain.

Either way, I see this article as a being blown out of proportion type article. Its amazing how convenient he was writing an article about this and it some how happens to him while writing the article.:unsure: Is it annoying? Yes but of you don't want it just right click and select uninstall???

Did he specify(I could have missed this in the article) if this was a major Windows update or just some regular patch Tuesday update. From what I remember, sometimes this happens with major updates, but not your typical patch Tuesday update?
 

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Gandalf_The_Grey

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Seems like a bug?
 
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