Updates Microsoft makes it difficult to disable Windows Defender on Windows 10

Did you ever disable Defender?

  • No

    Votes: 20 34.5%
  • Yes

    Votes: 38 65.5%

  • Total voters
    58

Nevi

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@Nevi Since Appguard is no realtime AV Microsoft just wanted you to be save with atleast one realtime AV running *hides fast* :D
How do you mean "no realtime"? It do have a very effective real time shield?
But it's the same if you try to use any other non Windows antivirus solution. At one point I was running Voodooshield pro, and there I felt no need for the WD either. It seems at one point it was possible to shut off WD, but then something happened and it became a real problem to do it. But I can see there seemingly are some apps you can use now, so you can do it with one click. 🥳
 

shmu26

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How do you mean "no realtime"? It do have a very effective real time shield?
But it's the same if you try to use any other non Windows antivirus solution. At one point I was running Voodooshield pro, and there I felt no need for the WD either. It seems at one point it was possible to shut off WD, but then something happened and it became a real problem to do it. But I can see there seemingly are some apps you can use now, so you can do it with one click. 🥳
Appguard is not an antivirus. It is an additional layer of protection, which is not intended to replace a traditional antivirus. That's why Windows fails to identify it as an AV -- because it isn't one. Same with Voodooshield.
If you want to disable Windows Defender, that's what Group Policy is for.
 

Nevi

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Appguard is not an antivirus. It is an additional layer of protection, which is not intended to replace a traditional antivirus. That's why Windows fails to identify it as an AV -- because it isn't one. Same with Voodooshield.
If you want to disable Windows Defender, that's what Group Policy is for.
Ya I know. But my problem is I don't use the Windows pro version. Home dont have group policy.:)
 

shmu26

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Ya I know. But my problem is I don't use the Windows pro version. Home dont have group policy.:)
If your conscience lets you, you can buy an upgrade to pro on ebay for a ridiculously low price. You can even buy a pro or enterprise license for a few dollars. the licenses work. Admittedly, the legality of this type of a deal falls in a grey area, but ebay is a legitimate vendor, so you won't get in trouble, and neither will they.
 
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SecurityNightmares

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If your conscience lets you, you can buy an upgrade to pro on ebay for a ridiculously low price. You can even buy a pro or enterprise license for a few dollars. the licenses work. Admittedly, the legality of this type of a deal falls in a grey area, but ebay is a legitimate vendor, so you won't get in trouble, and neither will they.
These licences aren't legal and can be blocked at any time.
Also if only group policy is the reason for pro, that can be solved easily with just activating group policy in home
 

Nevi

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If your conscience lets you, you can buy an upgrade to pro on ebay for a ridiculously low price. You can even buy a pro or enterprise license for a few dollars. the licenses work. Admittedly, the legality of this type of a deal falls in a grey area, but ebay is a legitimate vendor, so you won't get in trouble, and neither will they.
It's funny we get to talk about this right now. The last week I have been thinking of going pro, also because I know can do it so cheap.
But actually I dont have a problem right now.My posts was more generel.
It has been a nuisance for me a long time. :)
 
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Nevi

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These licences aren't legal and can be blocked at any time.
Also if only group policy is the reason for pro, that can be solved easily with just activating group policy in home
If I do it, I probably go pro, but thanks for the suggestion.
 

shmu26

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These licences aren't legal and can be blocked at any time.
The Windows 10 licences will not be blocked, ever. Once the machine is activated, MS does no further checks. It is theoretically possible that with Windows 7 or earlier, the license will be blocked at a later time, but practically speaking, that won't happen, because MS is not supporting them anymore. No updates = no problems.

The ebay office 365 licenses are more risky. My experience was the onedrive account got closed after a while, but the office license itself lived on.
 

Local Host

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The Windows 10 licences will not be blocked, ever. Once the machine is activated, MS does no further checks. It is theoretically possible that with Windows 7 or earlier, the license will be blocked at a later time, but practically speaking, that won't happen, because MS is not supporting them anymore. No updates = no problems.

The ebay office 365 licenses are more risky. My experience was the onedrive account got closed after a while, but the office license itself lived on.
Microsoft does have further checks on licenses, and can/will blacklist KEYs.

Obviously they mostly focused on companies not paying their dues, but they may end up catching people using licenses they shouldn't.

When this happens you get this warning, means the license was blacklisted and you no longer entitled,
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TairikuOkami

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Hello, perhaps I am sounding stupid, but will third party AV(such as Bitdefender)still be able to shut Windows Defender down?:confused:
Yes, at least that goes for big names, but since there are hundreds of AVs around the world, that might not apply to all (even Malwarebytes has issues).
 

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shmu26

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Microsoft does have further checks on licenses, and can/will blacklist KEYs.

Obviously they mostly focused on companies not paying their dues, but they may end up catching people using licenses they shouldn't.

When this happens you get this warning, means the license was blacklisted and you no longer entitled,
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Someone actually asked Microsoft about the type of Windows 10 licenses you get on ebay. Their reply was that the license will be checked at the initial activation. Once the license is associated with the device, that's it. MS doesn't bother anymore about it.
I have bought many Windows 10 licenses on ebay, and never had a problem with any of them.
Now, for the sake of argument, let's say I'm totally wrong, and there is a 50% chance the license will be deactivated. I would still risk my $5 instead of paying $200.
 
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