Q&A My Take – Brave vs Firefox vs Ungoogled Chromium (UC - Eloston) Browsers

HarborFront

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This is why I create the 3-Browser-Profiles thread and also speak already a lot of times using vanilla browser as much as possible.
Daniel Micay say also the same
Actually, IMO, the browser isolation (aka compartmentalization) is still not that good because all browsers still using the same laptop/PC having the same hardware unless you fake the hardware info for each browser.

Different browser on different PC/laptop and faking the hardware info will create better browser isolation or compartmentalization.
 
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What are some examples of those privacy invading data may I ask? Mozilla explicitly says in its documentation what type of data it collects.


I'm referring to telemetry data or any other data that are being sent back to Mozilla. If you want to de-Moziila to the core then you'll need the user.js file to do it. This is to improve your privacy/security/speed. In return, it may break sites, so you'll need to customize it.


However, as a privacy-conscious FF user, I'll try to de-Mozilla as much as I can (without breaking sites) to avoid data being sent back to Mozilla but not to the extent of being paranoid in using a customized user.js file
 
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I'm referring to telemetry data or any other data that are being sent back to Mozilla
So, you don't trust Mozilla at all which is valid. But why then using Firefox?

Before i switch from Firefox to Edge i used the ghacks user.js too but it breaks too many sites and features and require maintenance after every update.
Chrome users laugh at us
 

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So, you don't trust Mozilla at all which is valid. But why then using Firefox?

Before i switch from Firefox to Edge i used the ghacks user.js too but it breaks too many sites and features and require maintenance after every update.
Chrome users laugh at us
I use FF as an alternative to Chrome/Chromium browser. However, like in using Ungoogled Chromium, I try to de-Mozilla it as well.
 

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So, you don't trust Mozilla at all which is valid. But why then using Firefox?

Before i switch from Firefox to Edge i used the ghacks user.js too but it breaks too many sites and features and require maintenance after every update.
Chrome users laugh at us
Yes ghacks user.js breaks many things but I now i use the settings given on PrivacyTools about: config tweaks. These settings don't break things but are they good enough?
 

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Yes ghacks user.js breaks many things but I now i use the settings given on PrivacyTools about: config tweaks. These settings don't break things but are they good enough?
Yes, I'm aware of those settings for I'm using them. There are more settings on the net which you can search and use like from below




Note that some settings are duplicates whilst some may have been deprecated.
 
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I watched the video, and let me ask if I have what he was saying straight. I've only had 3 cups of coffee, so not fully alert or awake yet.

Use 2 browsers. I have Edge and Brave. Use one only for facebook and google, maybe Amazon too. The other browser is for your normal surfing.

I know facebook is bad. My hobby is metal detecting. I've looked at reviews and tests of various metal detectors, gone to FB and immediately have ads appearing for metal detectors.
 

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I really don't get it. What difference does it make what political or ideological views the director of a browser or some other software has? (as long as it's not outright pure fascism or something like that) Honestly, the desire to punish people and their products for their personal views nowadays reaches the point of absurdity.
Nothing new. Absurdity was already reached quite some time ago.
 

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Currently, my take is, I need a browser which is,
1. Secure enough
2. Syncing my data to their cloud so that even if my lose my device (which has happened in August) I don't lose my browser data and an option to send links anytime from my Windows PC to Android and vice-versa.
3. An android browser where I can get rid of those annoying cookie notices.
4. Accurate image and video rendering on my system with hardware acceleration enabled.
The last point is something I discovered recently. Check here:

For the number 1 point, Chrome is probably the best choice, and it doesn't need any explanation.

For number 2, again Chrome is the best choice here and MS Edge will also have this fully implemented this year. Brave has sync feature, but it doesn't save my data to their cloud like Chrome and Edge.

For number 3, Can any Chromium browser do this at the moment? Can Vivaldi do it? Vivaldi fulfills point number 1 & 2 but forgot about number 3.

For number 4, on my device none of the Chromium browsers qualify here. Chromium has broken hardware acceleration like I shared in that thread which is a big shame considering they are the number one browser engine in the world. So any Chromium browser is a no-go for me at the moment.

Now, Firefox fulfills all the four points I mentioned above. The only downside is, on my Android phone Firefox is much slower than fellow Chromium brothers. But I use my browser less on Android so not a big deal.
I also used a hardened Firefox for 2 years with telemetry and related things disabled, not using google, uBlock Origin in medium/hard mode, etc. But lately as I'm growing older (I'm still young though) I realized that, trying too hard isn't worth it. Ease of use has become more important than privacy.
Firefox fits all my needs at the moment, so I'm happy with it and may give Chromium Edge another go when they improve the Android version and Chromium themselves fix their damn hardware acceleration.
 

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These "annoying" banner improve your privacy so you can (and must) first configure like you want it.
If you block them, the site use any Cookies which include tracking so blocking in fact reduce your privacy.
What I meant is, on Firefox for Android I can use uBlock Origin with required annoyance filter which get rid of these cookie notices for me. Similar to PC, but I can't do that on Chrome/Edge on Android.
Isn't this opt-in which means as long as you don't accept it, it shouldn't matter if you block all banner related content altogether. Anyway one can use a cosmetic filter too.
Yes and on Android I can do that by using uBlock Origin on Firefox which is not possible with other browsers at the moment.
 
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What I meant is, on Firefox for Android I can use uBlock Origin with required annoyance filter which get rid of these cookie notices for me. Similar to PC, but I can't do that on Chrome/Edge on Android.

Yes and on Android I can do that by using uBlock Origin on Firefox which is not possible with other browsers at the moment.
I think Opera for Android also removes those prompts...
It used to provide VPN at some point as well.
 

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I think Opera for Android also removes those prompts...
It used to provide VPN at some point as well.
Totally forgot about Opera. I haven't used it in a while. But I can't use Opera either. The reason is Opera or any domain owned by Opera is blocked in my country. The reason is hilarious. Government blocked all porn sites in the country around 2 years ago. So many users switched to Opera to use its built in VPN to get pass the government block to access those sites. So, from last year they completely blocked Opera as if no one knows how to use other external VPN 😄 I heard they may undo the Opera block this year.
 

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3. An android browser where I can get rid of those annoying cookie notices.
If you are referring to those cookie consent messages, currently, UC and FF browsers don't have this feature built-in. You can either add filters or extensions to rid them. Using extension like 'I don't care about cookies' is more effective than using filter

Brave seems to have something ongoing

 

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If you are referring to those cookie consent messages, currently, UC and FF browsers don't have this feature built-in. You can either add filters or extensions to rid them. Using extension like 'I don't care about cookies' is more effective than using filter/

Brave seems to have something ongoing

I was talking about Android browser here.
 
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Isn't this opt-in which means as long as you don't accept it, it shouldn't matter if you block all banner related content altogether. Anyway one can use a cosmetic filter too.
Not on every sites. Many still use opt-out with the same popup.
Some sites use opt-in but doesn't disable all by default.

That's why I say blocking the popup only makes it worse.
Also it provide Infos about data collection so it's useful anyway
 
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