Q&A Ryzen 5 2600 or 2600x or GTX 1070 or RX580?

uduoix

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In about month i'll buy new pc. I'm not hardcore gamer but i do play FM, Fifa, NBA 2K, Madden NFL and sometimes FPS like COD or battlefield. I can't decide between amd ryzen 5 2600 or 2600x and GTX 1070 or RX 580. I know 1070 is better but is RX 580 good enough to run games on medium/high settings for next 3-5 years?
 

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AMD Ryzen 5 2600 or AMD Ryzen 2600X
Your choice will depend if you looking to overclock your CPU in the future, if you looking to overclock in the future get the Ryzen 2600X, else get the Ryzen 2600.
AMD RX 580 or GTX 1070
As you said the GTX 1070 is a better card, but the AMD RX 580 is indeed good enough for Medium/High Settings the next 5 years. Still have my RX 480 and I'm running games on High~Ultra settings with no problems.
AMD GPUs age better than NVidia GPUs, so if you looking to stick with with a GPU for 5y, you'll want an AMD GPU regardless.
 

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That would be very wise. AMD will be also coming out with the 2nd generation Ryzen cpu's (based on the 12nm process with at 45 w TDP). And as Lisa Su is no fool she will probably dump these guys on the market (in expectation of the 7nm Zen to come out in 2019). Intel will have to counter by lowering their previously monopolistic prices.

So waiting will keep a few bucks in your pocket.
 

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In about month i'll buy new pc. I'm not hardcore gamer but i do play FM, Fifa, NBA 2K, Madden NFL and sometimes FPS like COD or battlefield. I can't decide between amd ryzen 5 2600 or 2600x and GTX 1070 or RX 580. I know 1070 is better but is RX 580 good enough to run games on medium/high settings for next 3-5 years?

2600 and 2600 both will smash games. 2600 is basically the Ryzen 5 1600x. Since no games use over 4 cores, even the 1500X is going to be more than enough for even the most demanding game.

Right now is a GREAT time to buy a graphic card because the new gen has just arrived and all of the cryptocurrencies are crashing. So the miners have been struggling to unload their cards. I just purchased two 1070Ti cards on Ebay for the price of one and they are both basically brand new and in the box. Always go with Nvidia over ATI for the graphic card though, no question about that. You can grab a nice MSI 1070 GTX Armor Edition for around $225 on Ebay these days, that's amazing.
 

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I decided to wait till December. Now i'm thinking Ryzen 2600, GTX 1070 8gb, samsung SSD, WD 4TB, 16gb of ram but i don't know about speed. How much difference is bettwen 2400 and 3200 mhz?
 

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I decided to wait till December. Now i'm thinking Ryzen 2600, GTX 1070 8gb, samsung SSD, WD 4TB, 16gb of ram but i don't know about speed. How much difference is bettwen 2400 and 3200 mhz?
You'll want 2933mhz max to go on spec with the Ryzen 2600, do not go beyond 2933mhz.
 

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I decided to wait till December. Now i'm thinking Ryzen 2600, GTX 1070 8gb, samsung SSD, WD 4TB, 16gb of ram but i don't know about speed. How much difference is bettwen 2400 and 3200 mhz?

You'll probably save around $100 waiting. I just checked the exactly components I build a system with 5 months ago and they are $100 when all combined. However I would be concerned about the Cryptominer graphic card dumps on Ebay being exhausted before December. That's a sweetspot right now, maybe pick up a graphic card now and sit on it? I doubt 1070's are doing much lower than $225.
 

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I don't know if i trust used GPU these days.
Would something like that be good:
 

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How much difference is between 2400 and 3200 mhz

With the Ryzen 5 you will see modest performance improvements in SOME games (although not really in apps like 7zip, etc) with 3200MHz. If the difference in price (depends on the RAM brand that you are looking to get) between 2400 and 3200 is less than 10% go with the higher speed; if more than 10% go with the 2400 and use the price difference to upgrade other components.

ps- the G.Skill Flare X modules LOVES the Ryzen. However the price of the 3200 is like 80% over the 2400 modules.
 

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I don't know if i trust used GPU these days.
Would something like that be good:

Used GPU are almost always what I buy. The reason is the vast majority of failures are revealed during the initial burn in period. After that it's extremely unlikely they will fail. This is why many firms offer a lifetime warranty or at the least, a 3 year warranty. So even if you buy a used one you are still under warranty.
 
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I decided to wait till December. Now i'm thinking Ryzen 2600, GTX 1070 8gb, samsung SSD, WD 4TB, 16gb of ram but i don't know about speed. How much difference is bettwen 2400 and 3200 mhz?

How much GB for SSD? i think the 500GB is for games and HDD 2TB is for pics,videos, movies,important files, etc in my opinion. sure wait for Dec then see what happens..
 

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OK now is time for new PC, since this one is almost done.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600
MB: gigabyte b450m
RAM: 16gb (2x8) crucial ballistix elite ddr4
disk: WD Blue 2TB
SSD: samsung 860 EVO m.2 500GB
GPU: MSI RX580 8GB .. i'm not hardcore gamer so i don't know should i buy cheaper one or stick with 580?

i think this build should be fine for 5+ years?
 

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OK now is time for new PC, since this one is almost done.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600
MB: gigabyte b450m
RAM: 16gb (2x8) crucial ballistix elite ddr4
disk: WD Blue 2TB
SSD: samsung 860 EVO m.2 500GB
GPU: MSI RX580 8GB .. i'm not hardcore gamer so i don't know should i buy cheaper one or stick with 580?

i think this build should be fine for 5+ years?

Don't get AMD Gigabyte boards. Get either ASUS or MSI AMD boad. AsRock AMD boards are crap as well.

MSI RX 580 should last you another 5 years if you are not aiming 4k gaming. 1080P - 1440P should do fine and 2K. My GTX 970 is still going strong in 2018 for 1080P, but 1440P will have to turn down the settings to high for newer games demand more hardware resources.

It also depends what type of games, resolutions, and graphics settings you are planning to play.
 
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I decided to wait till December. Now i'm thinking Ryzen 2600, GTX 1070 8gb, samsung SSD, WD 4TB, 16gb of ram but i don't know about speed. How much difference is bettwen 2400 and 3200 mhz?

As far as Ryzen is concerned its performance especially in games is very sensitive to RAM speed. I would strongly recommend you to go with 3200Mhz Duel Channel setup. Also add an SSD as boot drive for a super responsive PC experience.
 
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