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<blockquote data-quote="Andy Ful" data-source="post: 778829" data-attributes="member: 32260"><p>I have the similar thoughts. </p><p>Many people use the computer in a very limited way, for the basic tasks like web browsing, emailing, social media, watching YouTube videos. They do not touch the security software and even if they change some settings, then it is done coincidentally. They use Windows, but probably should use the Chromebook, instead. Such people can be easily infected, when using the very universal, vulnerable and constantly changing Windows system.</p><p>Both Windows security and 3rd party security can be buggy, and sometimes there can be conflicts between them, too. So, what can be done for such people until Chromebooks will be more popular?</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">We cannot rely on M$, because they do not care about the average users.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Also, the 3rd party security software is not focused on the average users. The known example is the Windows script issue. Many above-average users cannot tweak the advanced options in AVs, so in fact their protection is not very different of Windows Defender. They think that 3rd party AV is far better, so install it on the computers of average users (also in small shops which sells/repairs the computers).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The average user is infected anyway, so another computer geek installs another AV, and so on. After some time the user has many compatibility/stability issues and infected computer, too.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">We can restrict the most vulnerable things in Windows, like remote features, Windows scripts, running unsafe applications downloaded from the Internet - that can be done by adopting SSS or more advanced configurators (SysHardener, HardenTools, H_C).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Restricting Windows has its downsides, when the user wants to install the new unpopular application (it can be blocked by SmartScreen). Also, some computers may use (rarely) Windows scripts, so the initial configuration will be required.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Default deny solution would be the best for average users, but has even more limitations (as compared to SSS), when the user wants to install the new application. That would require the occasional help from the more advanced user or some learning.</li> </ol><p>So there are some not bad solutions for some particular fractions of average users, but not the general solution (except Cromebook).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andy Ful, post: 778829, member: 32260"] I have the similar thoughts. Many people use the computer in a very limited way, for the basic tasks like web browsing, emailing, social media, watching YouTube videos. They do not touch the security software and even if they change some settings, then it is done coincidentally. They use Windows, but probably should use the Chromebook, instead. Such people can be easily infected, when using the very universal, vulnerable and constantly changing Windows system. Both Windows security and 3rd party security can be buggy, and sometimes there can be conflicts between them, too. So, what can be done for such people until Chromebooks will be more popular? [LIST=1] [*]We cannot rely on M$, because they do not care about the average users. [*]Also, the 3rd party security software is not focused on the average users. The known example is the Windows script issue. Many above-average users cannot tweak the advanced options in AVs, so in fact their protection is not very different of Windows Defender. They think that 3rd party AV is far better, so install it on the computers of average users (also in small shops which sells/repairs the computers). [*]The average user is infected anyway, so another computer geek installs another AV, and so on. After some time the user has many compatibility/stability issues and infected computer, too. [*]We can restrict the most vulnerable things in Windows, like remote features, Windows scripts, running unsafe applications downloaded from the Internet - that can be done by adopting SSS or more advanced configurators (SysHardener, HardenTools, H_C). [*]Restricting Windows has its downsides, when the user wants to install the new unpopular application (it can be blocked by SmartScreen). Also, some computers may use (rarely) Windows scripts, so the initial configuration will be required. [*]Default deny solution would be the best for average users, but has even more limitations (as compared to SSS), when the user wants to install the new application. That would require the occasional help from the more advanced user or some learning. [/LIST] So there are some not bad solutions for some particular fractions of average users, but not the general solution (except Cromebook). [/QUOTE]
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