Trump Signs Bill Banning Kaspersky Products on Government Computers

Discussion in 'Security News' started by LASER_oneXM, Dec 13, 2017.

  1. LASER_oneXM

    LASER_oneXM Level 18
    Content Creator

    Feb 4, 2016
    857
    4,448
    university/IT
    Germany / Poland
    Windows 8.1
    Kaspersky
     
    bribon77, plat1098, mlnevese and 4 others like this.
  2. Opcode

    Opcode Level 18
    Content Creator

    Aug 17, 2017
    891
    6,320
    Caille
    Windows 10
    I like Kaspersky and the following doesn't change that but reading this made me think of something... I recall that the story from Kaspersky mentioned that Eugene Kaspersky insisted on the uploaded source code being deleted immediately. If it was securely deleted, how was it stolen/uncovered when Kaspersky were breached in the first place?

    The whole thing from both sides smells a bit fishy to me. Oh well... Drama is drama. Average users are fine at-least, many businesses will still continue to use Kaspersky. Luckily they aren't banning it globally for all US citizens, that would be outrageous. Avast aren't used by the US government and they're doing fine, so will Kaspersky.

    At the end of the day, the NSA employee was responsible. That is obvious. If he wasn't responsible, he wouldn't have been arrested and charged. He was arrested and charged for stealing the classified documents, he had poor cyber-security practices and Kaspersky was only doing its job by trying to protect him. Else, why have the security package installed in the first place? Clearly, as we can see, the NSA employee needed Kaspersky more than most.
     
  3. DeepWeb

    DeepWeb Level 9

    Jul 1, 2017
    439
    1,423
    Nurse
    On a journey
    Windows 10
    Emsisoft
    But.... what is the alternative? McAfee? Symantec? Crowdstrike? I know they have great teams, but other than McAfee you can't really take your endpoint home on your computer.
     
  4. Vasudev

    Vasudev Level 22

    Nov 8, 2014
    1,109
    2,185
    Student
    India
    Windows 10
    Microsoft
    ESET, ZAM, Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, Dr. web are few alternatives.
     
    carsten ibsen, bribon77 and Opcode like this.
  5. DeepWeb

    DeepWeb Level 9

    Jul 1, 2017
    439
    1,423
    Nurse
    On a journey
    Windows 10
    Emsisoft
    Are those cleared by the DoD? If yes, there's still hope.
     
  6. mlnevese

    mlnevese Level 10

    May 3, 2015
    474
    1,975
    Windows 10
    Kaspersky
    At least until they notice Dr. Web is Russian as well...
     
  7. In2an3_PpG

    In2an3_PpG Level 11

    Nov 15, 2016
    504
    8,335
    IT Jr. Network Admin
    United States
    Windows 10
    Default-Deny
    Only McAfee is DoD approved and has been under contract for years. NASA however is contracted with Symantec.
     
    DeepWeb, Raider Red, mlnevese and 4 others like this.
  8. Opcode

    Opcode Level 18
    Content Creator

    Aug 17, 2017
    891
    6,320
    Caille
    Windows 10
    I still like Malwarebytes Anti-Malware and they are improving slowly now after their down-fall with the v3 release but I don't think they are using their resources to their full potential. They used to be amazing with signatures back in the day and then they bought Junkware Removal Tool and AdwCleaner, so they've improved with adware detection - they are still very good with adware/PUPs in general, but not so much zero-day malware anymore. The reason being is because they aren't very good with dynamic yet I do not think.

    Malwarebytes use a third-party hooking engine which is premium, it isn't Microsoft Detours Professional (which probably costs like 5+ grand apparently) but they could do so much with it... Intercept and prevent process hollowing for example. But they don't.

    If Malwarebytes Anti-Malware improve with dynamic, that'll be the nail in the coffin for them getting back up to where they used to be before the v3 release. I think the issue was that they jumped into trying to replace AVs too early, and that had a downfall effect on them.
     
  9. Vasudev

    Vasudev Level 22

    Nov 8, 2014
    1,109
    2,185
    Student
    India
    Windows 10
    Microsoft
    I didn't like the extra things that Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 3.x offered, so still on Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 2.x. If they make v2 EOL then it'll be uninstalled.
    Is this the tool Download Detours Express from Official Microsoft Download Center
     
    bribon77 likes this.
  10. bribon77

    bribon77 Level 10

    Jul 6, 2017
    497
    3,428
    spain
    Windows 7
    Emsisoft
    Thanks for the news .. But for me, nothing changes with respect to Kaspersky.:p
     
  11. Antimalware18

    Antimalware18 Level 8

    Jan 17, 2014
    367
    1,427
    Windows 10
    Kaspersky
    Doesn't worry me. Sounds like scare tactics.
     
    Vasudev, Raider Red, bribon77 and 2 others like this.
  12. low L!fe

    low L!fe Level 3

    Oct 11, 2014
    111
    206
    Windows 10
    BitDefender
    Bitdefender is alternative kaspersky
     
    Anubis, Vasudev and mlnevese like this.
  13. Anupam

    Anupam Level 21

    Jul 7, 2014
    1,002
    2,233
    Windows 7
    It's not about the antivirus. If the employee is breaching security protocol by taking classified document in home and putting it in personal computer then it's his fault.
    Seems like even the small IT firms imposes better security policy than NSA. It's not always about the security products. Most of the time it's ignorance of the people.
    Or this might all together be another plan of the US government to ban Russian products.
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  14. Windows Defender Shill

    Apr 28, 2017
    225
    1,046
    Alabama
    Windows 10
    Webroot
    It's not unthinkable that the FSB could have compromised key Kaspersky personnel without Eugene's knowledge. At which point the FSB most likely knows who a lot of NSA employees are and could cross reference their names with Kaspersky's user base and then periodically extract data from that machine or at least examine very closely the malware reported from it.

    Just my theory.
     
    Vasudev likes this.
Loading...