Battle WhatsApp or Telegram

[TairikuOkami]

I use the original Telegram, not the one provided/censored by Google (blue icon with a white line around it), but I hear there are 2-3 better alternatives, but I did not quite catch them.

 

[amirr]

WhatsApp is announcing new tools for voice notes | WABetaInfo

Discover a new feature on WhatsApp beta for Android and iOS: WhatsApp is announcing new updates for voice notes!

wabetainfo.com

 

[ForgottenSeer 94943]

I am using both Signal and Threema. Ditched WhatsApp for good.

 

[amirr]

Telegram Premium-Abo ab 4,99 $ im Monat mit diesen Features

Telegram spekuliert nun schon eine ganze Zeit damit, dass ein Premium Abo mit speziellen Funktionen eingeführt werden soll. Jetzt sind in der aktuellen Beta die ersten Infos dazu bekanntgeworden. W…

www.deskmodder.de

 

[Devilish]

It is but all my friends are on Whatsapp so had to use Whatsapp.

 

[robert-smith]

exactly. you can hide your phone number from the privacy settings

 

[L0ckJaw]

I prefer Signal, but no one is willing to use it... so Whatsapp because Telegram is from.... Russia.....

 

[rain2reign]

WhatsApp is so heavily integrated here, that I don't really have a choice. Everyone is on it, from friends and family to your workplace... If I had the choice and people were willing to switch with me, I personally would've preferred Threema.

 

[marcopaone]

WhatsApp.​

Telegram does not have encrypted chats (only in secret chat)

 

[MrFellow]

WhatsApp is so heavily integrated here, that I don't really have a choice. Everyone is on it, from friends and family to your workplace... If I had the choice and people were willing to switch with me, I personally would've preferred Threema.

Same here, WhatsApp and Viber. People don't bother too much to look into it and just go with the trend (whats most popular, and don't look for better privacy and security alternatives).
But I get it, not everyone has the time, will, or interest to look into it.

 

[Soulbound]

Always been a user of Whatsapp as most people in my country use it, however I also use Telegram for other things, just not communicating with people from same country. Dont care much about their privacy or encryptions methods since nothing sensible is ever said or shared on either platform.

 

[Trooper]

Telegram for me.

 

[Frib004]

I use both, because I have important groups on WhatsApp, but I prefer Telegram, because it is lighter and you don't have to back up your messages.

 

[amirr]

Why You Probably Shouldn't Pay for Telegram Premium

You can use Telegram for free, but are its premium features worth paying for?

lifehacker.com

 

[amirr]

Deleted my WhatsApp account, for the sake of usability and effectiveness of Telegram and Signal.

 

[amirr]

Is it true that in Europe people living in an apartment, an apartment manager has created a WhatsApp group or Telegram group to let the residents know about upcoming events, announcements, general information, etc.?
Why WhatsApp or Telegram group? Isn't any other way possible?

Maybe someone doesn't have an smartphone.

Please anyone in this forum, reading this, let me know.

 

[rain2reign]

Is it true that in Europe people living in an apartment, an apartment manager has created a WhatsApp group or Telegram group to let the residents know about upcoming events, announcements, general information, etc.?
Why WhatsApp or Telegram group? Isn't any other way possible?

Maybe someone doesn't have an smartphone.

Please anyone in this forum, reading this, let me know.

In West-Europe, yes. Depending on the country or region within, unescapable. Why WhatsApp? That question is easier to answer and understand than one might expect. It was the first of its kind to come to the market at such a hype and level, also while retaining an entry barrier of zero (for the time). So taking in mind that the entry barrier was relative to zero and every donkey and cat could sign up, it hooked also technologically troubling users in politics (local and national). Which in turn spread the name and hype of it even further. As a result, over time, the app became too integrated in society for the average citizen that you simply can't do without any more.

You can't simply escape it, due to it actually having been made properly from a UX point of view for the (below) average user. No entry barrier, for a while a phone number was not even needed as long as you were logged in to android (Facebook hadn't acquired it yet). Every option made sense for the time, integrated backup to GDrive on automic by default. And so on.

The others either didn't exist or were still in deep in development (if not concept). At this time yet. Mind you, they can't force you to join that group!! That is illegal, unless it was required by the contract signed.

Telegram never really caught on, yes it has more users now, but it never really caught on due to its timing. Same goes for Signal, threema, etc... Facebook Messenger probably being the only exception to the bunch. Entry barrier is higher with current timing, since people have become more distrustful to giving their phone numbers, needing to make new contacts, needing at least 2-3 chat apps since everyone is still on the old platform and learning a new UX which is fair for the average user. I did a test once with a bunch of friends and family that can't handle technology beyond the power buttons on their smartphones and in their eyes Telegram and Signal UX doesn't make sense... Why? Because the WhatsApp way of doing things is too heavily integrated into everyday life.

The only other way to know these events, announcements, general information is by email, post, newspaper or word of mouth. And depending on the contents, some of that information is bound by regulation to inform the tenant, for example, by mail and/or other means agreed upon.

 

[amirr]

In West-Europe, yes. Depending on the country or region within, unescapable. Why WhatsApp? That question is easier to answer and understand than one might expect. It was the first of its kind to come to the market at such a hype and level, also while retaining an entry barrier of zero (for the time). So taking in mind that the entry barrier was relative to zero and every donkey and cat could sign up, it hooked also technologically troubling users in politics (local and national). Which in turn spread the name and hype of it even further. As a result, over time, the app became too integrated in society for the average citizen that you simply can't do without any more.

You can't simply escape it, due to it actually having been made properly from a UX point of view for the (below) average user. No entry barrier, for a while a phone number was not even needed as long as you were logged in to android (Facebook hadn't acquired it yet). Every option made sense for the time, integrated backup to GDrive on automic by default. And so on.

The others either didn't exist or were still in deep in development (if not concept). At this time yet. Mind you, they can't force you to join that group!! That is illegal, unless it was required by the contract signed.

Telegram never really caught on, yes it has more users now, but it never really caught on due to its timing. Same goes for Signal, threema, etc... Facebook Messenger probably being the only exception to the bunch. Entry barrier is higher with current timing, since people have become more distrustful to giving their phone numbers, needing to make new contacts, needing at least 2-3 chat apps since everyone is still on the old platform and learning a new UX which is fair for the average user. I did a test once with a bunch of friends and family that can't handle technology beyond the power buttons on their smartphones and in their eyes Telegram and Signal UX doesn't make sense... Why? Because the WhatsApp way of doing things is too heavily integrated into everyday life.

The only other way to know these events, announcements, general information is by email, post, newspaper or word of mouth. And depending on the contents, some of that information is bound by regulation to inform the tenant, for example, by mail and/or other means agreed upon.

You are very right. What you said about donkey and cat, reminded me of this saying: "In a world of cats and dogs, try to be a kangaroo."
Anyway, I am happy with my decision, and told my mate that I deleted WhatsApp for good for the sake of gaining a bit of concentration, and also consolidating my mental stimuli to SMS, Telegram, email and Signal only.

Tom Warren is right saying:
"it’s interesting to see Signal and Telegram soar in popularity. But it’s still difficult to convince people to switch away from WhatsApp. It’s usually met with a “why?” or “I don’t care,” because humans don’t like change."

 

[learningexp]

I'd say signal. But if you must, telegram with secure chats

 

[ch4mla]

Let's see. Whatsup is owned by Facebook. Telegram is secure out of the box, simple modern functional user experience.

Whatsup.