Windows 11 - First look

[ng4ever]

Yes, that really makes me want to upgrade to Windows 11 myself.
Can't be that bad...
Unfortunately, my laptop is not supported and my current AV (the famous Ziggo Safe Online) not compatible yet.

Yeah same here

 

[ng4ever]

Thanks everyone--was curious about initial experiences with installation and setup. Just seems to be a let-down on several levels, right?

I see a pattern here with Microsoft. Every other operating system since XP seems to be a general dud--that is, if you combine Windows 8/8.1. I guess it's Windows 11's turn to be the dud. Just never had good karma from the beginning with its hardware requirements which now can be "bypassed" anyway. So why not revert them? Makes no sense.

Is anyone who successfully installed Windows 11 considering going back to 10? I know some around here already have, though.

P.S. Windows 8.1 is still my favorite OS. But it's nostalgia time and now it's 2021, plat, move along please.

Windows 2000 is my favorite!

 

[carl fish]

Windows 2000 is my favorite!windows xp and windows 7 are my favorite

Windows 2000 is my favorite!

Windows xp and windows 7 are my favorite, I wish Microsoft would do away with the widgets from 11 and bring back windows 7 gadgets into 11 because 11's widgets are almost useless, as for 7's gadgets i can stand them and use them in 11 if they were an option.

I also liked 10 for the little weather icon on its taskbar, I still use windows 10 for work so its kind of a tease.

 

[rain2reign]

My upgrade was not painless, BSOD's after using the upgrade assistant ONLY to realize 2 hours later that it was both a corrupted upgrade(installation) and faulty AMD PSP driver installation as well as my BIOS doing funky stuff.... Reflashed the BIOS with the same version (no newer available for my CPU), forced bios settings reset, save and reboot. Then enabled fTMP and Secure boot... Now it works.

We have a special kind of love-hate relationship, Microsoft and I.

 

[carl fish]

My upgrade was not painless, BSOD's after using the upgrade assistant ONLY to realize 2 hours later that it was both a corrupted upgrade(installation) and faulty AMD PSP driver installation as well as my BIOS doing funky stuff.... Reflashed the BIOS with the same version (no newer available for my CPU), forced bios settings reset, save and reboot. Then enabled fTMP and Secure boot... Now it works.

We have a special kind of love-hate relationship, Microsoft and I.

that's not good at all

 

[brambedkar59]

 

[shukla44]

Not upgrading until some problems get fixed. I don't care about anything else other than extra work. The biggest problem is default apps.
Q: Will upgrading to Windows 11 reset my current default apps?
Q: Can i set file associations from the programs itself as most of them have settings to associate to their respective file types?

 

[silversurfer]

Windows 11 bug reverts users back to the Windows 10 taskbar​

In a post on Reddit, a user shared a screenshot of Windows 11 showing that the new operating system continued to use the Windows 10 taskbar and the Start Menu no longer worked.

"Updated to Windows 11 using Microsoft's official update assistant . I still have the old taskbar and the start menu doesn't work at all," reads a Reddit topic.
Soon after posting about the issue, other Reddit users began commenting that they, too, experienced similar behavior. One of the people affected by these issues issue told BleepingComputer that other than these issues, everything else in Windows 11 used the new user interface design.

This same issue was also seen when Windows 11 build 22000.194 was tested in the Insider preview program.
To fix these issues, users experimented with uninstalling the latest Windows 11 cumulative update, which worked in some cases.
Other users forced others to create a brand new user profile to fix the issue. However, users then need to copy their data to the new profile and potentially reinstall some applications. As the new profile is resolving the issue, it could be a Registry corruption or an existing setting causing the problem.

Windows 11 bug reverts users to the Windows 10 taskbar

Windows 11 users report a strange upgrade experience where the operating system continues to show the Windows 10 taskbar, while everything else uses the new Windows 11 user interface.

www.bleepingcomputer.com

 

[rain2reign]

For those like me that noticed some small performance drops on Windows 11 in comparison to Windows 10. This is only if you're using a AMD compatible processor, like a Ryzen R7 2700x for example, that I'm using.

AMD and Microsoft are working on fixes scheduled for later this month.

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-400

Edit: A similar thing happened with the AMD Bulldozer series as well as a few specific Phenom models before in previous versions of Windows (like 7 and 8).

 

[mlnevese]

I was wondering what was causing the reported performance drops. On both Intel based computers I tested 11 was actually faster than 10, not anything that justifies upgrading, unless you have installing Windows as one of your hobbies

 

[oldschool]

@brambedkar59

 

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Windows 11 File Explorer high memory usage bug is getting a fix

Microsoft recently released the Windows 11 upgrade for users with a supported version of Windows 10 (version 2004 or later). While the update has brought a number of design overhauls, it appears it has also introduced a serious performance issue where some users are seeing incredibly high memory usage.

After installing Windows 11, some users are reporting numerous performance issues. AMD has confirmed that the performance issue is caused by Windows 11’s new security feature, but there appears to be another bug that is caused by Microsoft’s redesigned File Explorer (Explorer.exe).

On Reddit and forums, users have been complaining about how their Windows 11 devices now suffer from extremely high memory usage. As a result, the performance of the entire gig suffers and it also negatively affects the gaming performance, resulting in framerate drops.

It looks like the issue is caused by Windows 11’s File Explorer update.

With Windows 11, File Explorer is getting a Fluent and Mica update. As part of the design overhaul, Microsoft has made two major changes: File Explorer’s ribbon menu has been replaced with a command bar/header which uses Mica, and context menu has been updated with Fluent Design.

It appears that these design improvements are resulting in high memory usage for Explorer. The process listed as “Explorer.exe” in Task manager is causing resources spikes of 70-99%, as well as constantly using the processor of the device.

As users have noted, File Explorer’s memory usage goes up each time they open File Explorer. What’s particularly annoying about Windows 11’s high memory usage is that the fix was tested by Windows Insiders in the Dev Channel before Windows 11 was made available to everyone.

It seems that those reports were ignored, and Windows 11 was released with a File Explorer memory leak bug.

Thankfully, Microsoft is aware of the problem and they’re working on a fix.

In a post on Feedback Hub, Microsoft noted that they’ve “included changes with Build 22454 to mitigate a couple of issues that were causing leaks when using File Explorer”.

Windows 11 Build 22454 was released to testers last month, so it’s possible that the fix will be included in the next update for those in the production channel.

Windows 11 File Explorer high memory usage bug is getting a fix

Microsoft recently released the Windows 11 upgrade for users with a supported version of Windows 10 (version 2004 or later). While the update has brought a number of design overhauls, it appears it has also introduced a serious performance issue where some users are seeing incredibly high memory...

www.windowslatest.com

 

[rain2reign]

My spike wasn't as severe as the article, but it does use more memory. I thought actually it might have been, because of the new visuals and animations taking up more RAM to be honest till now. xD

 

[upnorth]

How to upgrade to Windows 11, whether your PC is supported or not

Supported or not, new or old, this is everything you need to know.

arstechnica.com

 

[rain2reign]

If you know folks that want to know if they are compatible with less hassle and more (base)knowledge than Microsoft's tools like the "Health app"... I can recommend either:
Win11RCT

Homepage: Windows 11 Requirements Check Tool​

source code: GitHub - ByteJammer/Win11RCT: Windows 11 Requirements Check Tool​

WhyNotWin11: GitHub - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11: Detection Script to help identify why your PC is not Windows 11 Release Ready

The former option being more in-depth with a properly written out documentation on the website. More easily accessible if you click on the tab applicable (not mouse hover). latter just being a more fancy "healthy App".

 

[amirr]

Yes, and official website for WhyNotWin11 is also: WhyNotWin11 - Windows 11 PC Health Check but F-Secure detected it as malicious.

 

[amirr]

 

[silversurfer]

Fix Windows 11 displays Windows 10 taskbar​

Sometime back, Microsoft itself suggested the following fix to affected insiders running the Beta channel.
Here is what you need to do:

1. Open Settings > Windows Update> Update History
2. Uninstall the latest Cumulative Update that could be KB5004300 or KB5005635
3. Restart your device when prompted
4. Visit Windows Update and check for updates again, when CU is offered, reinstall it again. This brings back centered Windows 11 taskbar and Start Menu to a normal and working state.

If the above steps helped you to regain Windows 11 taskbar, but the Start Menu is still broken, try the below steps [...]

Fix Windows 11 retains Windows 10 taskbar & breaks Start Menu after Upgrade

Left with Windows 10 taskbar and non-functional Start Menu after upgrading to Windows 11? Here are the potential workarounds that worked for affected users.

techdows.com

 

[dna7899]

Was encoding a video using x264 + Vapoursynth whilst having a YouTube video running in the background on Chrome. It immediately crashed. Not very impressed so far. I've rolled back to Windows 10 for now.

 

[rain2reign]

That video from around the timeline at 2:30, pretty much sums up why I don't trust many hardware tests from any source, reputable or not, unless there is a proper reason too. Sample of #1 IS NOT A (public sample) PERFORMANCE TEST! If there are multiple, that's when it starts to get interesting. Then further research will be required for questions such as .... (just to put a few examples out there):

• Same or different architecture of effected samples?
• Across how many samples?
• Affected samples AMD, Intel, Qualcomm or all of the above?
• L3 cache limit?
• etc...

Does it affect the performance? Yes, definitely. Do the numbers add up, however? Hell no, because you stopped at a sample of 1! A 25% of a specific architecture does not have to be the same % at another. Especially when there is no clear documentation on how and what the methodology entails. PCGamer and a lot of other sources not derived from them, many had those flaws on top off that they clearly (authors of said article) don't know how hardware works. Let alone what certain features whether they be CMD or GUI do in OS. I can keep ranting on this for decades.