Windows Defender Fails to Make Windows 8 Completely Secure – Expert

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DrBeenGolfing

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Put a HIPS AV in the hands of about 95% of computer users and it won't be long before they will disable it, or take a sledge hammer to the machine. Microsoft knows this, that's why no BB, HIPS, sandbox.
 

Jack

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DrBeenGolfing said:
Put a HIPS AV in the hands of about 95% of computer users and it won't be long before they will disable it, or take a sledge hammer to the machine. Microsoft knows this, that's why no BB, HIPS, sandbox.
If they would just launch a HIPS with no white list, then yes. However if the would build a proper HIPS program than I do think that it could save a user from a few computer infections.
Even better, an Application Reputation System could have been implemented, as Microsoft does have the database need it to pull this off.

Windows 8 Defender (MSE) is a good product, but it has its limitation, if you have no common sense and have some bad habits while using the Internet, sooner or later you will get infected.

I do admit that it's impossible to "completely secure" Windows from this type of newbies, however some additional layers may prevent an infection or two.
And because we are talking about Microsoft, I do think that they could better develop the Limited User Account, so that it will be easier to use, and maybe be installed by default for the user.
 

DrBeenGolfing

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Amen on the UAC Limited by default. I'm sure that would get disabled in short oder, too. Next time you have a family reunion, class reunion, meet with non-geek friends or coworkers, just start asking or talking about this stuff and watch their eyes glaze over. You instantly become a Jehovah's Witness or Mormon proselytizing. About the same reaction you'll get talking about the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, or golf.:p
 

jamescv7

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The problem for MSE being a simple and using signatures/heuristics/generic is literally behind from others however they could integrate that feature from IE the smartscreen filter, enhanced EMET to be a sandbox and etc...

For the meantime they could use with all Microsoft security products for sufficient protection as standalone.
 
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