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Yet another surprise patch, KB 4078130, disables part of the Meltdown/Spectre patches
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- Jul 1, 2017
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Oh boy here we go... That has got to be the tiniest patch I have ever seen.
- Mar 24, 2017
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That update is amall as, not sure if I want to install it.....
- Jul 1, 2017
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Don't worry. The update won't even install....
This whole Spectre\Meltdown fiasco - what else does on call it ? - has been just another blunder by all parties involved. And the ones who pay along the way are those who are left trying to sort out what is what. Same familiar story isn't it ?
Average Joe doesn't even pay attention. And if he\she does do you think they are inclined or willing to devote the time and effort required to figure out the mess created by Intel, AMD, Google, Microsoft and others ? Already different parties have said contradictory things and already some of those parties have reversed themselves - not once, but multiple times.
Like I said early on, when the hysteria was at a fever pitch, it is wise to wait-and-see because in the months to come a lot of what was said early on is likely to be revised or "re-clarified." But no... everybody was caught-up in the hysteria, all-consumed with patching their systems against exploits that had little chance of happening. And just look at what is being done now, Intel is undoing at least part of an earlier patch. And the revisions, re-clarifications, reversals, jockeying, re-positioning and whatever you want to call it will continue in the months to come.
But the joke of it is that it is an update only available through the Update Catalog - as if Average Joe is going to even know what the Update Catalog is.
It's just another pathetic state of affairs.
At least with Google you have an out... just use Chromebook, you're better off.
Average Joe doesn't even pay attention. And if he\she does do you think they are inclined or willing to devote the time and effort required to figure out the mess created by Intel, AMD, Google, Microsoft and others ? Already different parties have said contradictory things and already some of those parties have reversed themselves - not once, but multiple times.
Like I said early on, when the hysteria was at a fever pitch, it is wise to wait-and-see because in the months to come a lot of what was said early on is likely to be revised or "re-clarified." But no... everybody was caught-up in the hysteria, all-consumed with patching their systems against exploits that had little chance of happening. And just look at what is being done now, Intel is undoing at least part of an earlier patch. And the revisions, re-clarifications, reversals, jockeying, re-positioning and whatever you want to call it will continue in the months to come.
But the joke of it is that it is an update only available through the Update Catalog - as if Average Joe is going to even know what the Update Catalog is.
It's just another pathetic state of affairs.
At least with Google you have an out... just use Chromebook, you're better off.
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- Mar 24, 2017
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To be fair, I updated my system at home to see what the real deal is and everything seems to be ok, but at work it a different story. I haven't applied any patches due to the fact that there were reported issues with SEP and the next big thing is that we are getting a new photocopier in the next few days.... so I want to avoid much of this crap if I can.
There is so much contradictory information out there that Average Joe cannot make sense of it. Even for people that have half a clue, it is a real pain.
Then you have forced Windows Updates on Windows 10 Home - right ?
It's just awesome... and I mean that in the most acrimonious and mocking way possible. That's my own personal perspective. Seems like Microsoft has just never learned its lessons from user complaints from decades past. If it cannot learn after decades, then it never will.
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- Jul 3, 2015
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So what's with Google? They said that the next Chrome update would have a fix for the kernel exploits, but when Chrome finally updated, I didn't see any specific mention of such a fix.
- Oct 30, 2015
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Either an acknowledgement that the fix was indeed issued, or a statement about the estimated time frame for the fix to be released.
The fix has actually been around for quite a long time as an optional Chrome flag, but I think they wanted to try and cut down the amount of RAM that it uses, so they could enable it by default.
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Guess what, Linux is vulnerable too.Linux... here I come!
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Nothing in IT world is invulnerable. At least Linux don't give me those occassional "timebomb" atm lol.
- Jul 3, 2015
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I meant to say that recent kernel exploits apply to Linux, too, because they stem from the CPU, and Linux also uses Intel and AMD, just like Windows does.That's teorethical. How is it practical?
They are not Windows-specific vulnerabilities, they are cross-platform.
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If you didn't receive or manually install a previous patch that is presently giving you grief, then you don't need this new patch. But it is there for those who need it, for those who are suffering from a previous patch.
I assume that they don't push it out to everyone because:
1 first they need to see if this new patch messes anything up
2 the whole situation is pretty fluid, so there might be a bigger and better patch on the way, making this one superfluous.
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