DefenderUI by VoodooShield - Turn on Hidden Security Features of Microsoft Defender
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Getting close… DefenderUI Pro / WDAC Lockdown should be ready by the weekend for sure, assuming we do not think of a cool new feature to add 
. We figured out a way to prompt the user on a WDAC block, and it is almost ready, just working out the kinks.
Here is a screenshot of what we have so far.
Just for the fun of it, I created an Ai video about WDAC Lockdown. It took all of 5 minutes to write the prompt. There are actually parts of the video that are really good, but there are parts that are super bad. The dialog they created was quite good, but some of the stock video footage was silly.
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. We figured out a way to prompt the user on a WDAC block, and it is almost ready, just working out the kinks.Here is a screenshot of what we have so far.
Just for the fun of it, I created an Ai video about WDAC Lockdown. It took all of 5 minutes to write the prompt. There are actually parts of the video that are really good, but there are parts that are super bad. The dialog they created was quite good, but some of the stock video footage was silly.
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Sure, that would be super easy to add, but I think it would drive people nuts
. I have been working with end users for 20+ years, and I know what they like and what they do not like .
- May 31, 2017
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Hey Guys,
Here is the initial beta of DefenderUI Pro. If anyone is running CyberLock and wants to try this beta, you can always uninstall CyberLock, and just choose to not remove the settings and logs, then uninstall DefenderUI Pro later and reinstall CyberLock. I am curious to see if anyone thinks we should add the WDAC Lockdown feature to CyberLock. It really is not necessary, but it would not hurt to add WDAC Lockdown to CyberLock.
I am still not a huge fan of WDAC, but a lot of people swear by it, so I figured we would make a user-friendly, automated version of it. A good kernel mode driver like the one DefenderUI Pro and CyberLock uses is much more flexible, and allows developers to do tons of things they could never do with WDAC.
The WDAC Lockdown factory default policies were generated from the Microsoft WDAC Wizard are stored here: C:\Program Files\DefenderUI\Policies. Then there are also user customizable policies that are stored here: C:\ProgramData\DefenderUI\Policies. If any of the factory default policies are modified, then the user customizable policies are automatically deployed. But if there are not user customizable policies, then the factory default policies are deployed.
The WDAC Lockdown feature also includes a modified version of the Microsoft WDAC Wizard, and this modified version makes it super simple to create and modify policies for WDAC Lockdown.
If you do use the WDAC Lockdown feature, it would be best to start in Training mode for a day or so. There are only four folders that are automatically whitelisted by the factory default policies.
C:\Program Files\
C:\Program Files (x86)\
C:\WindowsApps\
C:\XboxGames\
We could have whitelisted other folders as well, but as you are aware, that can be dangerous. Besides, with the new WDAC Lockdown usability features, anything that needs to be whitelisted is automatically whitelisted, and that way we do not have to whitelist entire potentially dangerous directories. We might end up tweaking the factory policies a little, but it is probably best to stick with the policies that are recommended by Microsoft.
There are probably a few things that we need to tweak or fix, so if you guys find anything please let me know!
DefenderUIPro 1.18
SHA-256: 7dc488692ccafcca67777a5d72be2b4d6c5eb75f607fe1127200c65622fe198c
Have a great weekend!
Dan
Here is the initial beta of DefenderUI Pro. If anyone is running CyberLock and wants to try this beta, you can always uninstall CyberLock, and just choose to not remove the settings and logs, then uninstall DefenderUI Pro later and reinstall CyberLock. I am curious to see if anyone thinks we should add the WDAC Lockdown feature to CyberLock. It really is not necessary, but it would not hurt to add WDAC Lockdown to CyberLock.
I am still not a huge fan of WDAC, but a lot of people swear by it, so I figured we would make a user-friendly, automated version of it. A good kernel mode driver like the one DefenderUI Pro and CyberLock uses is much more flexible, and allows developers to do tons of things they could never do with WDAC.
The WDAC Lockdown factory default policies were generated from the Microsoft WDAC Wizard are stored here: C:\Program Files\DefenderUI\Policies. Then there are also user customizable policies that are stored here: C:\ProgramData\DefenderUI\Policies. If any of the factory default policies are modified, then the user customizable policies are automatically deployed. But if there are not user customizable policies, then the factory default policies are deployed.
The WDAC Lockdown feature also includes a modified version of the Microsoft WDAC Wizard, and this modified version makes it super simple to create and modify policies for WDAC Lockdown.
If you do use the WDAC Lockdown feature, it would be best to start in Training mode for a day or so. There are only four folders that are automatically whitelisted by the factory default policies.
C:\Program Files\
C:\Program Files (x86)\
C:\WindowsApps\
C:\XboxGames\
We could have whitelisted other folders as well, but as you are aware, that can be dangerous. Besides, with the new WDAC Lockdown usability features, anything that needs to be whitelisted is automatically whitelisted, and that way we do not have to whitelist entire potentially dangerous directories. We might end up tweaking the factory policies a little, but it is probably best to stick with the policies that are recommended by Microsoft.
There are probably a few things that we need to tweak or fix, so if you guys find anything please let me know!
DefenderUIPro 1.18
SHA-256: 7dc488692ccafcca67777a5d72be2b4d6c5eb75f607fe1127200c65622fe198c
Have a great weekend!
Dan
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BTW, the default factory policies includes the Microsoft Recommended Block rules.
If anyone is having an issue with the Microsoft Recommended Block rules blocking an item, you will probably need to use the integrated WDAC Wizard and uncheck the Merge with Recommended User Mode Block Rules and uncheck the Merge with Recommended Kernel Block Rules. You should be able to do this with either the Policy Creator or Policy Editor options, and modifying the BasePolicies… both the Audit and Enforced. It is difficult to explain, but the modified WDAC Wizard should walk you right through the process.
Better yet, you can use the Policy Editor to manually remove the specific rule, for both the Audit and Enforced BasePolicies.
Or you could just put WDAC Lockdown into training mode for now.
I am working on a feature that will automatically remove these Recommended Block Rules when the user clicks Allow. I meant to include this in the initial, but I completely forgot. It should be ready in a couple of days, possibly sooner.
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Also, there is a typo in the modified WDAC Wizard. The third line should read...
The user modified policies are stored here: C:\ProgramData\DefenderUI\Policies
If anyone is having an issue with the Microsoft Recommended Block rules blocking an item, you will probably need to use the integrated WDAC Wizard and uncheck the Merge with Recommended User Mode Block Rules and uncheck the Merge with Recommended Kernel Block Rules. You should be able to do this with either the Policy Creator or Policy Editor options, and modifying the BasePolicies… both the Audit and Enforced. It is difficult to explain, but the modified WDAC Wizard should walk you right through the process.
Better yet, you can use the Policy Editor to manually remove the specific rule, for both the Audit and Enforced BasePolicies.
Or you could just put WDAC Lockdown into training mode for now.
I am working on a feature that will automatically remove these Recommended Block Rules when the user clicks Allow. I meant to include this in the initial, but I completely forgot. It should be ready in a couple of days, possibly sooner.
Edit:
Also, there is a typo in the modified WDAC Wizard. The third line should read...
The user modified policies are stored here: C:\ProgramData\DefenderUI\Policies
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I am guessing that you have not tried the WDAC Lockdown feature. Am I correct?Please do not add this to VoodooShield.
Keep in mind, this is just the first version and it is only going to get better. I am working on optimizing the allow one new item feature so that it does not refresh the policy over and over again. There are many ways to do this, but I need to think through it, then optimize the code. It should be ready soon.
Having said that, yeah, I highly doubt that we will add WDAC Lockdown to VoodooShield / CyberLock (It really is not necessary). I have other plans
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Correct.I am guessing that you have not tried the WDAC Lockdown feature. Am I correct?
Thank goodness!
What are they? And why?I have other plans
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Click on the disk symbol, the sequence of letters that the program then creates is the user profile. If you want to use it on another computer, enter the letter sequence above in the field next to the download icon and then click on the download icon. The user profile is then adopted.
aldist
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- Jul 22, 2020
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I don't see where these "letters" are created. In the program folder, in the program interface? Can you show a screenshot?
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Ahhh, I get it, the program does this online, it needs a connection to its server to do this. These letters will appear as in the screenshot, it will be something like your custom profile ID.
Ok, in what file is the profile stored, how do you load the profile into the program without internet?
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I am working on a stand alone version of WDAC Lockdown, so that people can use it even if Microsoft Defender is not their primary AV. It is mainly targeted toward security enthusiasts, SMB and enterprise
The question is, should we include the ASR rules with the stand alone version?
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Thank you @@Oldie1950 for fielding this question. Yeah, we could make it so that this feature does not require an internet connection, but the whole idea is for you to be able to share your config with other people. Like, hey, try this config... "JJLTT". Having said that, we might include a local option at some point as well.
Will you add the option to add ISG, to work similarly with cyberlock autopilot or ISG used as smart training mode.
aldist
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- Jul 22, 2020
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That would be great, please do it
Please advise the address bar for the desktop shortcut to directly open this Windows Security menu?
Windows Security>Virus & thread protection>Manage Settings
aldist
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aldist
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- Jul 22, 2020
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@danb
DUI Free, not all users prefer to use the program as resident with autostart. User starts DUI, configures WS via DUI, closes DUI. The user should be able to close the program intelligently, not brute force kill processes. Like offline saving of custom config, this will only add users to the program.
DUI Pro, needs the ability to copy strings from the alerts in "Show more" mode, by button or by highlighting strings with mouse. But Pro requires resident mode.
Update
It turns out that strings are copied individually by double-clicking. I double-clicked on the hash line, the browser startup alert appeared, DUI Pro froze, Win11 computer froze, only a hard reboot helped.
DUI Free, not all users prefer to use the program as resident with autostart. User starts DUI, configures WS via DUI, closes DUI. The user should be able to close the program intelligently, not brute force kill processes. Like offline saving of custom config, this will only add users to the program.
DUI Pro, needs the ability to copy strings from the alerts in "Show more" mode, by button or by highlighting strings with mouse. But Pro requires resident mode.
Update
It turns out that strings are copied individually by double-clicking. I double-clicked on the hash line, the browser startup alert appeared, DUI Pro froze, Win11 computer froze, only a hard reboot helped.
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aldist
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Update2
LOL, the context menu in the tray has scrolling! Maybe because I have 11pt font instead of 9pt?
And it has a normal Exit. But the scroll buttons are small, it's hard to hit, and why scrolling where you could do without it? Scrolling is obviously unnecessary here.
When you exit the program, DefenderUIService continues to work, so DefenderGuard will continue to protect?
LOL, the context menu in the tray has scrolling!
Maybe because I have 11pt font instead of 9pt?And it has a normal Exit. But the scroll buttons are small, it's hard to hit, and why scrolling where you could do without it? Scrolling is obviously unnecessary here.
When you exit the program, DefenderUIService continues to work, so DefenderGuard will continue to protect?
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