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Privacy: "I have nothing to hide?" Argument (What's your say?)
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<blockquote data-quote="Andrezj" data-source="post: 1022256" data-attributes="member: 97580"><p>below is not an endorsement of the status quo, just pointing out reality</p><p></p><p>even if there are laws that prohibit them from looking at your photos, there is nothing that can really stop them</p><p>governments and societies are not going to put it administrators into jail for looking at your data, let alone create sweeping laws that would make looking at your data illegal</p><p></p><p>the prevailing worldview is that your data does not belong to you, you have no ownership of it</p><p>in many countries, leaders believe all data belongs to the state</p><p>there are merely bare-minimum (entirely ineffective) laws and policies that attempt to prevent personal data abuse</p><p></p><p>the fight for "privacy" with regard to the transition to digital storage, access and flow was lost in the 1970s, everybody was too busy living their lives, nobody cared even if they knew about it - which is likely that 99.999% of people did not even know it was happening</p><p>same during the 1980-2020s</p><p></p><p>lawmakers, from most any country, have little interest in creating strong privacy laws</p><p>in the eu, the home country lawmakers scoff at what the policy makers do in brussels</p><p></p><p>talking about privacy on forums, hactivism and violence against the state will not change the laws or the system</p><p>now, more than ever, there will be no changes to privacy given that two generations - millennials and gen z - fully embrace the notion that they have no privacy and they live their lives in the digital space</p><p></p><p>browser extensions, vpn through tor, fake online identities, etc - these assist with online anonymity, which is not the same as privacy</p><p>the above do next to nothing to prevent data collection or the "use of, manipulation of, or abuse of" data</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andrezj, post: 1022256, member: 97580"] below is not an endorsement of the status quo, just pointing out reality even if there are laws that prohibit them from looking at your photos, there is nothing that can really stop them governments and societies are not going to put it administrators into jail for looking at your data, let alone create sweeping laws that would make looking at your data illegal the prevailing worldview is that your data does not belong to you, you have no ownership of it in many countries, leaders believe all data belongs to the state there are merely bare-minimum (entirely ineffective) laws and policies that attempt to prevent personal data abuse the fight for "privacy" with regard to the transition to digital storage, access and flow was lost in the 1970s, everybody was too busy living their lives, nobody cared even if they knew about it - which is likely that 99.999% of people did not even know it was happening same during the 1980-2020s lawmakers, from most any country, have little interest in creating strong privacy laws in the eu, the home country lawmakers scoff at what the policy makers do in brussels talking about privacy on forums, hactivism and violence against the state will not change the laws or the system now, more than ever, there will be no changes to privacy given that two generations - millennials and gen z - fully embrace the notion that they have no privacy and they live their lives in the digital space browser extensions, vpn through tor, fake online identities, etc - these assist with online anonymity, which is not the same as privacy the above do next to nothing to prevent data collection or the "use of, manipulation of, or abuse of" data [/QUOTE]
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