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<blockquote data-quote="Yuki2718" data-source="post: 888861" data-attributes="member: 87923"><p>[USER=82776]@Lenny_Fox[/USER] On what we disagree? I don't see conflicts but sorry if something I said made you feel I denied your choice. Your choice is clearly not the 'wrong choice' and reasonable in one way, and mine is also reasonable in another way, just that. IDK how the discussion looks from Westerner but I enjoyed the arguments - whatever theme it is it's always my pleasure to talk with someone who is brilliant and doesn't get emotional.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite109" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>One clear reason is I tend to skim-read posts in forums - it's my bug but sorry can't easily fix <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite115" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />. Another may be a matter of different perspectives. When a rule is rarely hit, do you think it doesn't make sense or "it's still hit"? I'm/happened to be on the latter side. While rules like /images/ad/* are commonly hit, I haven't ever seen /service/tracking/* was hit anywhere other than eDreams and I don't use eDreams. But I wanna keep this rule - who knows if I use eDreams in future or it gets hit on another site in future? In fact another paper in the thread prove EL often proactively blocks ads by generic rules; i.e. blocking rules have been around even before the ads born. <strong>IF</strong> the cost of having many rules is close to 0, there's only benefit left even if it's little. And it's not necessarily little - each rule may be rarely hit, but aggregated together they can be quite an amount - this effect of aggregation is sometimes missed by statistics beginner. So a question is if the cost can be regarded as 0 and I guess this is where we choose different perspectives each. Probably we agree they don't cause slowdown (remembered, the paper measured on older implementation of ABP). Then <u>to me</u>, more memory usage (but >10MB) and initial launch don't matter unless one uses a PC with 500MB memory or so often launches and closes browser (even if so, it's still negligible on my 14y old laptop), and default update period is 4 days unless specified by the filter (anyway I usually don't notice when they're updated). So TO ME it's 0 cost. Maybe I said before, but EL got significant overhaul in last autumn (<a href="https://twitter.com/fanboynz/status/1197860212541030400" target="_blank">Fanboy's tweet</a>). I still see many redundant rules in EL/EP but don't care much (discarded by uBO) - I only <a href="https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/5517" target="_blank">care about unneeded whitelists</a>.</p><p></p><p>Thx, tho I don't play Karate I appreciate your thoughtfulness - in Japanese kidukai (or kizukai) which probably has slightly different sense, maybe [USER=69581]@show-Zi[/USER] can explain it. I love old amsterdam cheese (no Japanese made, really!).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yuki2718, post: 888861, member: 87923"] [USER=82776]@Lenny_Fox[/USER] On what we disagree? I don't see conflicts but sorry if something I said made you feel I denied your choice. Your choice is clearly not the 'wrong choice' and reasonable in one way, and mine is also reasonable in another way, just that. IDK how the discussion looks from Westerner but I enjoyed the arguments - whatever theme it is it's always my pleasure to talk with someone who is brilliant and doesn't get emotional.:) One clear reason is I tend to skim-read posts in forums - it's my bug but sorry can't easily fix :p. Another may be a matter of different perspectives. When a rule is rarely hit, do you think it doesn't make sense or "it's still hit"? I'm/happened to be on the latter side. While rules like /images/ad/* are commonly hit, I haven't ever seen /service/tracking/* was hit anywhere other than eDreams and I don't use eDreams. But I wanna keep this rule - who knows if I use eDreams in future or it gets hit on another site in future? In fact another paper in the thread prove EL often proactively blocks ads by generic rules; i.e. blocking rules have been around even before the ads born. [B]IF[/B] the cost of having many rules is close to 0, there's only benefit left even if it's little. And it's not necessarily little - each rule may be rarely hit, but aggregated together they can be quite an amount - this effect of aggregation is sometimes missed by statistics beginner. So a question is if the cost can be regarded as 0 and I guess this is where we choose different perspectives each. Probably we agree they don't cause slowdown (remembered, the paper measured on older implementation of ABP). Then [U]to me[/U], more memory usage (but >10MB) and initial launch don't matter unless one uses a PC with 500MB memory or so often launches and closes browser (even if so, it's still negligible on my 14y old laptop), and default update period is 4 days unless specified by the filter (anyway I usually don't notice when they're updated). So TO ME it's 0 cost. Maybe I said before, but EL got significant overhaul in last autumn ([URL='https://twitter.com/fanboynz/status/1197860212541030400']Fanboy's tweet[/URL]). I still see many redundant rules in EL/EP but don't care much (discarded by uBO) - I only [URL='https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/5517']care about unneeded whitelists[/URL]. Thx, tho I don't play Karate I appreciate your thoughtfulness - in Japanese kidukai (or kizukai) which probably has slightly different sense, maybe [USER=69581]@show-Zi[/USER] can explain it. I love old amsterdam cheese (no Japanese made, really!). [/QUOTE]
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