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<blockquote data-quote="Myriad" data-source="post: 613731" data-attributes="member: 52792">I take your point .I&#039;ve been watching that ugly little spat for a few years now .The more I look , the more it becomes fuzzy because there are actually two separate issues at work here ,IMO .1]&nbsp; MBAM suspected for some time that IOBit were &quot; borrowing &quot; their malware sigs/ definitions.They responded by making an imaginary malware ( which did nothing ) and bundled it into their update cycle.And &quot; Poof &quot; , as if by magic , it turned up in the following bunch of IOBit updates ........ &quot;What can&#039;t speak can&#039;t lie &quot;.2] There is also a significant cultural issue here -In the West we grow up with a strong grasp of intellectual property , copyright , and a legal system which givesa good deal of protection to those rights .That notion simply does not exist in China , and it never has ( and I mean no disrespect to China or it&#039;s citizens ) .On a broader note , IOBit do have a bad rep for sneaking in bundleware /crapware etc , but so do many others.Just recently one of my OD scanners picked up a sneaky little rascal called &quot; <a href="http://www.file.net/process/devidagent.exe.html" target="_blank">devidagent</a>&quot;Tracking it down led to a folder created years ago by&nbsp; .... guess who ....IObitI guess the lesson learned is that no matter how good your uninstaller of choice , it is always worth searchingfor remnants , with a few well chosen keywords .<a href="https://www.voidtools.com/" target="_blank">Everything</a> by voidtools is superb for this BTW , and mighty fast .Anyway , I&#039;m not surprised by the reported PUP detections .</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Myriad, post: 613731, member: 52792"] I take your point . I've been watching that ugly little spat for a few years now . The more I look , the more it becomes fuzzy because there are actually two separate issues at work here ,IMO . 1] MBAM suspected for some time that IOBit were " borrowing " their malware sigs/ definitions. They responded by making an imaginary malware ( which did nothing ) and bundled it into their update cycle. And " Poof " , as if by magic , it turned up in the following bunch of IOBit updates .... .... "What can't speak can't lie ". 2] There is also a significant cultural issue here - In the West we grow up with a strong grasp of intellectual property , copyright , and a legal system which gives a good deal of protection to those rights . That notion simply does not exist in China , and it never has ( and I mean no disrespect to China or it's citizens ) . On a broader note , IOBit [B]do[/B] have a bad rep for sneaking in bundleware /crapware etc , but so do many others. Just recently one of my OD scanners picked up a sneaky little rascal called " [URL='http://www.file.net/process/devidagent.exe.html']devidagent[/URL]" Tracking it down led to a folder created years ago by .... guess who .... IObit I guess the lesson learned is that no matter how good your uninstaller of choice , it is always worth searching for remnants , with a few well chosen keywords . [URL='https://www.voidtools.com/']Everything[/URL] by voidtools is superb for this BTW , and mighty fast . Anyway , I'm not surprised by the reported PUP detections . [/QUOTE]

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