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Anyone who is using Proton for mail, VPN and storage and hopes for privacy and anonymity look elsewhere.
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<blockquote data-quote="Kaffee4Eck" data-source="post: 1122849" data-attributes="member: 46308"><p><h3><strong>Proton and Telemetry / Logging – In Detail</strong></h3><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><th><strong>Aspect</strong></th><th><strong>Proton Implementation</strong></th></tr><tr><td><strong>Logging</strong></td><td>No IP logging or metadata retention when accessing Mail or VPN services</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Tracking / Telemetry</strong></td><td>No hidden telemetry, no third-party analytics (e.g., Google, Meta)</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Open Source</strong></td><td>Many components are open source and independently verifiable (e.g., apps, VPN clients, Proton Pass)</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Audits</strong></td><td>Regular external security audits by independent firms (e.g., SEC Consult, Radically Open Security)</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Legal Jurisdiction</strong></td><td>Headquartered in Switzerland – subject to strong Swiss data protection laws</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Transparency Reports</strong></td><td>Yes – Proton publishes regular, detailed transparency reports on government data requests</td></tr><tr><td><strong>Client-Side Encryption</strong></td><td>End-to-end encryption is enforced across all Proton services (Mail, Drive, Calendar, etc.)</td></tr><tr><td><strong>VPN-Level Logs</strong></td><td>Zero logs – no storage of IP addresses, DNS queries, or traffic metadata</td></tr></table><p></p><p></p><p>I personally don’t mind if a company expresses support for a particular party or public figure. What matters to me are the <strong>facts</strong>, and the <strong>actual practices reflected in their systems and terms of service</strong>.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They could support <strong>Putin</strong> or <strong>Zelenskyy</strong> for all I care—<strong>as long as the software or product delivers what it promises</strong>, that's what ultimately counts for me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That said, I have to admit—<strong>as a German myself</strong>—I find it increasingly difficult to trust companies or decisions made in Germany. Especially when <strong>people are quickly “voted out” or canceled simply for expressing sympathy toward a political party</strong>.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Right now, it feels like <strong>Germany is being run by liars and frauds</strong>. Sure, <strong>Trump’s actions aren’t right</strong>, and <strong>Putin’s certainly aren’t always either</strong>, but there's always <strong>another side to the story</strong>. You simply can't please everyone. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😄" title="Grinning face with smiling eyes :smile:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f604.png" data-shortname=":smile:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kaffee4Eck, post: 1122849, member: 46308"] [HEADING=2][B]Proton and Telemetry / Logging – In Detail[/B][/HEADING] [TABLE] [TR] [TH][B]Aspect[/B][/TH] [TH][B]Proton Implementation[/B][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Logging[/B][/TD] [TD]No IP logging or metadata retention when accessing Mail or VPN services[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Tracking / Telemetry[/B][/TD] [TD]No hidden telemetry, no third-party analytics (e.g., Google, Meta)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Open Source[/B][/TD] [TD]Many components are open source and independently verifiable (e.g., apps, VPN clients, Proton Pass)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Audits[/B][/TD] [TD]Regular external security audits by independent firms (e.g., SEC Consult, Radically Open Security)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Legal Jurisdiction[/B][/TD] [TD]Headquartered in Switzerland – subject to strong Swiss data protection laws[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Transparency Reports[/B][/TD] [TD]Yes – Proton publishes regular, detailed transparency reports on government data requests[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Client-Side Encryption[/B][/TD] [TD]End-to-end encryption is enforced across all Proton services (Mail, Drive, Calendar, etc.)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]VPN-Level Logs[/B][/TD] [TD]Zero logs – no storage of IP addresses, DNS queries, or traffic metadata[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] I personally don’t mind if a company expresses support for a particular party or public figure. What matters to me are the [B]facts[/B], and the [B]actual practices reflected in their systems and terms of service[/B]. They could support [B]Putin[/B] or [B]Zelenskyy[/B] for all I care—[B]as long as the software or product delivers what it promises[/B], that's what ultimately counts for me. That said, I have to admit—[B]as a German myself[/B]—I find it increasingly difficult to trust companies or decisions made in Germany. Especially when [B]people are quickly “voted out” or canceled simply for expressing sympathy toward a political party[/B]. Right now, it feels like [B]Germany is being run by liars and frauds[/B]. Sure, [B]Trump’s actions aren’t right[/B], and [B]Putin’s certainly aren’t always either[/B], but there's always [B]another side to the story[/B]. You simply can't please everyone. 😄 [/QUOTE]
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