Apple Co-Founder Wozniak Joins #DeleteFacebook

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Apple Co-Founder Wozniak Joins #DeleteFacebook
"The profits are all based on the user’s info"
dailywire.com: Apple Co-Founder Wozniak Joins #DeleteFacebook

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ByPaul Bois @PaulBois39
April 9, 2018

After getting blasted by Apple CEO Tim Cook, Mark Zuckerberg now faces opposition from Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, who announced his joining #DeleteFacebook because the company allowed third-party apps to probe people's private data.

Speaking with USA Today, Wozniak said that Facebook essentially uses the info of their customers to get free ad revenue with zero payback to the user. His statement echoes that of Apple CEO Tim Cook.

“Users provide every detail of their life to Facebook and … Facebook makes a lot of advertising money off this. The profits are all based on the user’s info, but the users get none of the profits back,” Wozniak said. “Apple makes its money off of good products, not off of you. As they say, with Facebook, you are the product."


Wozniak also expressed puzzlement over some of the hoops users must jump through in order to change the privacy settings, especially the many categories for ads he had to remove.

"I did not feel that this is what people want done to them," added Wozniak. "Ads and spam are bad things these days and there are no controls over them. Or transparency."

The only way that Facebook could prevent advertisers from exploiting their personal data for target advertising is to set up a paywall for those who wish to have privacy, according to Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg. Of course, people who can afford the paywall would stand to benefit, but poorer folks would risk having their private information probed. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said that would thwart the social network's mission.

“At Facebook, we are squarely in the camp of the companies that work hard to charge you less and provide a free service that everyone can use,” Zuckerberg said in response to Apple CEO Tim Cook.


Though the #DeleteFacebook campaign certainly makes for provocative headlines, especially when the likes of Wozniak are involved, evidence shows that Facebook is not on the cusp of a mass withdrawal. In fact, few have done so. Zuckerberg also maintains the #DeleteFacebook campaign has done little to affect the business.

 

[Ink]

You might find this interesting @Prorootect
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11iGok76H-k

Apple doesn't post on Facebook and Twitter, turns off comments on YouTube videos and distances itself from social media as much as possible. Why?

Watch video above.

 

[Prorootect]

You might find this interesting @Prorootect
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11iGok76H-k

Comment:
Cosmin Irimia3 months ago
I think Tim Cook forgot the password of Apple's accounts

 

[ForgottenSeer 58943]

Woz in one interview basically called Zuckerberg a sociopath...

Pretty awesome to see people striking out against Zuckerberg. Long overdue!

 

[Fel Grossi]

I already have facebook for at least 5 years. I do not think I should delete more. They must already have everything of my life.

 

[ForgottenSeer 58943]

I already have facebook for at least 5 years. I do not think I should delete more. They must already have everything of my life.

As I mentioned elsewhere, I practice extreme measures in my use of FB.

No photos unless pixelated with EXIF removed.
Monthly 'mass deletion' of content in my activity log.
NO likes, NO tagging, NO searching on Facebook.
Maximum Privacy settings, no commenting on public pages.

Facebook has nothing on me other than my name and a couple dozen friends. Even my birthday is fake. I never trusted facebook, EVER, so I never placed my data in their hands.

 

[Lightning_Brian]

I agree with your post @ForgottenSeer 58943 !

I'm thinking more people will ditch Facebook once more information comes out to the public. I'm happy I have never been on Facebook - nor do I plan on ever joining. To think there was a time I thought about creating a Facebook just so that no one else would create one in my name... Glad I just decided na'! Just a time waster, data miner, and not worth much in my opinion. Personally, I feel like there is more wide open doors in Facebook that have yet to come out to be "public knowledge". What do I mean about this? I feel as though the data mining and missuese has probably gone on for a very long time and the recent media buzz is not the tip of the iceberg.

Good posting @Prorootect .

~Brian

 

[ForgottenSeer 58943]

The problem is, there isn't a 'really good' alternative. Most people want something that works just like facebook and is familiar. There isn't anything except VK in Russia, which is hands down a FB clone. At least if the Russians get your data it's relatively meaningless. Having CIA Funded Facebook with all of your data is probably a really bad idea.

VK mobile version

Minds is pretty good, but not really functional in the way FB is, more like Instagram or something instead.

 

[ForgottenSeer 58943]

A bit of irony here?

I've been HAMMERING FB lately, including on my FB page itself. I posted a rather incendiary photo of Mark Zuckerberg to my page. Within 24 hours of me doing this I started getting 'harassed' on Facebook. They flagged any Conservative posts I made as fake news and blacked them out from my friends. (including a Washington Times article)

For reference, I do not keep my smart TV's connected to the internet, but a few days ago I needed to perform firmware updates on one, so I left it connected to download. At 10PM EST tonight that TV turned itself on and started playing an animated pornography movie, and the volume of my TV was turned way up.

I immediately enabled packet capture and traces on the device and eventually traced the activity to Facebook Building 57 Menlo Park, CA. I'm sure the little kids at FB didn't realize they were attacking a security engineer for a major security firm? FB are really really sleazy. What a fitting street for them eh?

 

[outlawxtorn]

I really should get rid of mine, unfortunately it's pretty much the easiest way to keep in touch with friends/family I don't see a lot.
@ForgottenSeer 58943, what a bunch of scummy douches.

 

[ForgottenSeer 58943]

I really should get rid of mine, unfortunately it's pretty much the easiest way to keep in touch with friends/family I don't see a lot.
@ForgottenSeer 58943, what a bunch of scummy douches.

That's the problem.. Facebook is quick and easy to keep in touch with friends/relatives. But I consider facebook a hostile platform and it's employees totally untrustworthy so I approach it with caution.

The very second I find a viable alternative, it's deleted. I get the feeling facebook is acting like a rogue nation state, and probably has significant hacking capabilities with no oversight. They're a mercenary force and we're giving them incredible amounts of power over us if we use their service.

 

[Deleted member 65228]

If Facebook hacked my Smart TV and played pornographic content I'd send them back a nude so it can be "accidentally leaked" later on and honored by the media. And that my friends is how you become a celebrity in 2018.

One problem... I have no Smart TV. Yet.

 

[Daviworld]

Wow, Facebook is such a disgusting company. A lot of people I can't regularly keep in contact with, uses it. Building my own website for friend's and family worked briefly, but they just reverted back to Facebook and using alternative site's are hard because they want something familiar, *sigh*.

I can't wait to delete that garbage from my life; just waiting for a Myspace 2.0 to happen to Facebook or user's start leaving en mass because of some other disgusting thing Facebook is doing.

Outside of my connection's and picture's, since I know many individuals in my professional and private life. Facebook only has junk information and status's according to my downloaded data. Name is just a phrase in different language, no information is filled it for about me, and any conversation's I have are usually me commenting some vague like "Awesome anime series", "this exploit is still in the wild", "cool picture" and email is just a email I use for social sites and streaming, not my important email address.

However, I remember reading in their term's a couple year's ago(not sure if it has changed) that anything you post or draft(not posted yet) is their property permanently. Also, even if you delete your stuff, on their server's they WILL NOT delete it. Only remove it from the user view in the DB backend.

Again though, this was back around 2012/2013 when I read terms of agreement, so it's possible it has changed or been updated. However, I doubt it.

My time on that site is usually 1 or 2 visit's in a week, while only remaining on the site for 10-15mins typically posting some garbage/informational post and checking notifications from people trying to reach me.

Working in the networking & security sector I typically disable all of the scripts on Facebook, except for the one's I need to "actually" have the site function. I don't allow it to store cookie's and remove any if it does, prevent its tracking via CCS exfil, ads or facebook connect. I deactivate some elements on the page from activating, and only access that site ever through my VPN I only use for web browsing.

My smart TV & IP Cam have been put on a separate VLAN on my router from my smartphone and PC, with a entirely different subnet. using iptables and dns filtering using host files I check for any suspicious Facebook probing or IoT probing. A bit over the top I know lol

 

[SumTingWong]

How about Google acquires FaceBook and then delete it afterward?

 

[ForgottenSeer 58943]

This happened today at work...

I was in a room with 1 other person. I didn't have my Smart Phone on me, but if I did, I have the microphone blocked. Someone drove a 1987 Chevy to work today so that came up, and we were talking about it. Then a second person walked in and said 'Yeah, that's my 1987 Chevy', and we talked briefly about it and they walked away.

Within 1 hour I logged on to my FB account at my desk, and guess what? Facebook seems to think I am interested in 1987 Chevy Cars now, and is serving me ads for THAT YEAR and suggestions for car groups for THAT YEAR.

I did some cursory investigation.. Since I didn't have my phone we can rule mine out. The other guy had two phones, neither has Facebook installed and he doesn't have a facebook account. The 1987 Chevy owner had their phone AND facebook installed.

So all of the early conclusions are BAD for the public. This quite possibly indicates we're being tracked/monitored by facebook outside of facebook. But also it COULD indicate they've established a voice print ID on everyone, including me. How were they able to span me over from someone else I have zero association with other than being in the same building? (No shared email, photos, accounts, no friends on fb, etc)

This is pretty huge when you think about it, it's mass surveillance.

 

[Prorootect]

This happened today at work...

I was in a room with 1 other person. I didn't have my Smart Phone on me, but if I did, I have the microphone blocked. Someone drove a 1987 Chevy to work today so that came up, and we were talking about it. Then a second person walked in and said 'Yeah, that's my 1987 Chevy', and we talked briefly about it and they walked away.

Within 1 hour I logged on to my FB account at my desk, and guess what? Facebook seems to think I am interested in 1987 Chevy Cars now, and is serving me ads for THAT YEAR and suggestions for car groups for THAT YEAR.

I did some cursory investigation.. Since I didn't have my phone we can rule mine out. The other guy had two phones, neither has Facebook installed and he doesn't have a facebook account. The 1987 Chevy owner had their phone AND facebook installed.

So all of the early conclusions are BAD for the public. This quite possibly indicates we're being tracked/monitored by facebook outside of facebook. But also it COULD indicate they've established a voice print ID on everyone, including me. How were they able to span me over from someone else I have zero association with other than being in the same building? (No shared email, photos, accounts, no friends on fb, etc)

This is pretty huge when you think about it, it's mass surveillance.

"we're being tracked/monitored by facebook outside of facebook."

- So now I'm keeping my mouth open
It's really horrible what you described... so we're definitely tracked... followed without knowing anything about this!
Spies everywhere by the omnipresent Government!
- by mini drones, artificial mosquitoes?
Maybe mini microphones, video camera under 1 milimetre...this must be it...

in the country too? in the backward mountains, in a great forest of pines

 

[DavidLMO]

@ForgottenSeer 58943 "This quite possibly indicates we're being tracked/monitored by facebook outside of facebook."

I have no klue how they did what they did in your example, but at least on the web, they track you everywhere that you see a FB Share button on a web site. Regardless of you having an FB account. And no, you do not need to have FB open nor click the Share button.

This was brought up several times in the Senate & House hearings but no one pressed Zuck hard enough and he side-stepped ?s every time it came up.

They suck, for sure.