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Avira Antivirus Pro vs WannaCry ransomware by Juan Diaz
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<blockquote data-quote="kamla5abi" data-source="post: 631953" data-attributes="member: 62094"><p>CFW (Comodo FireWall) already includes cloud based AV detection/BB/HIPS</p><p>CIS = CFW + Comodo AV (Offline AV detection/On Demand Scan)</p><p>so CFW setup properly is all you need <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite109" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>CAV is not that great and the opinion that CAV isn't that great is all over these forums, if you search for it you will see many people with same conclusion.</p><p>I can't say for sure but I'm 99% sure [USER=7463]@cruelsister[/USER] also said CAV is useless (meaning CIS also useless, since theres nothing more than CAV+CFW), so CFW is all you need.</p><p>If cruelsister says CFW is all you need, CAV is unnecessary, i would go with that <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite110" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> she seems quite expert in all things malware/ransomware/etc (as you can see from her posts and videos), and since it is her config that everyone loves and is proven to protect against malware/ransomware, i would trust her</p><p></p><p>with cruelsister's config, and assuming you set it up properly according to her config, you don't need any other AV. the only thing another AV will do is use it's definition/signature based detection to remove malware right away, otherwise if it does somehow get opened it'll be run automatically inside CFW sandbox, meaning it cant do any damage. Only way malware will get past CFW sandbox (i think) is if it's using forged/stolen security certificate to make it on the trusted list</p><p></p><p>see above</p><p></p><p>i also read this somewhere, not every suspicious file gets uploaded to avira cloud for analysis to reduce cloud workload</p><p>the reasoning was something like "not every file needs to be uploaded to be declared safe/unsafe, there is criteria in place that determines if the file gets uploaded or not" but couldn't find any information about the "criteria" that decides which file to upload and which file not to upload</p><p></p><p></p><p>I found this forum (MalwareTips) through wilders security forums, so for that i am thankful to wilders forums....but thats about it <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite119" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite110" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>I didn't see ANY negative things about avira there, no "bad" reviews, etc... so to me that stuck out as weird to me <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite120" alt="o_O" title="Er... what? o_O" loading="lazy" data-shortname="o_O" /> then eventually i found this forum and found out why <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite115" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite116" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>that was one problem i found with avira pro... I'll explain.</p><p>1) Yes, avira cloud does decent job. Yes, avira definitions are awesome.</p><p>2)The problem: when malware isnt detected by avira definitions, it already gets past avira's first/biggest line of defense.</p><p></p><p>Next, avira cloud supposed to check file, right? Problem: IF avira cloud is too slow at responding, malware gets past avira cloud too sometimes...</p><p>You would think that avira cloud would check malware file out, before allowing malware to run, to determine if its allowed or not allowed.</p><p>but i've seen avira cloud be too slow to respond, and by then malware is already done some damage...</p><p></p><p>And i'm not even sure what would happen if malware got on your computer via USB or bluetooth file transfer etc, but if you are offline...meaning you are not connected to internet...does avira cloud have any way of protecting you then? i think not... ??<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite113" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused:" /></p><p></p><p>hahaha i see what you did there <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite115" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite116" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> A[loe]Vira lol</p><p></p><p>yes i agree with you, many other AV that ONLY rely on definition/signature detection probably will fail to protect.</p><p>that's why to protect against ransomware, malware behavior etc protection is needed</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kamla5abi, post: 631953, member: 62094"] CFW (Comodo FireWall) already includes cloud based AV detection/BB/HIPS CIS = CFW + Comodo AV (Offline AV detection/On Demand Scan) so CFW setup properly is all you need :) CAV is not that great and the opinion that CAV isn't that great is all over these forums, if you search for it you will see many people with same conclusion. I can't say for sure but I'm 99% sure [USER=7463]@cruelsister[/USER] also said CAV is useless (meaning CIS also useless, since theres nothing more than CAV+CFW), so CFW is all you need. If cruelsister says CFW is all you need, CAV is unnecessary, i would go with that ;) she seems quite expert in all things malware/ransomware/etc (as you can see from her posts and videos), and since it is her config that everyone loves and is proven to protect against malware/ransomware, i would trust her with cruelsister's config, and assuming you set it up properly according to her config, you don't need any other AV. the only thing another AV will do is use it's definition/signature based detection to remove malware right away, otherwise if it does somehow get opened it'll be run automatically inside CFW sandbox, meaning it cant do any damage. Only way malware will get past CFW sandbox (i think) is if it's using forged/stolen security certificate to make it on the trusted list see above i also read this somewhere, not every suspicious file gets uploaded to avira cloud for analysis to reduce cloud workload the reasoning was something like "not every file needs to be uploaded to be declared safe/unsafe, there is criteria in place that determines if the file gets uploaded or not" but couldn't find any information about the "criteria" that decides which file to upload and which file not to upload I found this forum (MalwareTips) through wilders security forums, so for that i am thankful to wilders forums....but thats about it :rolleyes:;) I didn't see ANY negative things about avira there, no "bad" reviews, etc... so to me that stuck out as weird to me o_O then eventually i found this forum and found out why :p:D that was one problem i found with avira pro... I'll explain. 1) Yes, avira cloud does decent job. Yes, avira definitions are awesome. 2)The problem: when malware isnt detected by avira definitions, it already gets past avira's first/biggest line of defense. Next, avira cloud supposed to check file, right? Problem: IF avira cloud is too slow at responding, malware gets past avira cloud too sometimes... You would think that avira cloud would check malware file out, before allowing malware to run, to determine if its allowed or not allowed. but i've seen avira cloud be too slow to respond, and by then malware is already done some damage... And i'm not even sure what would happen if malware got on your computer via USB or bluetooth file transfer etc, but if you are offline...meaning you are not connected to internet...does avira cloud have any way of protecting you then? i think not... ??:confused: hahaha i see what you did there :p:D A[loe]Vira lol yes i agree with you, many other AV that ONLY rely on definition/signature detection probably will fail to protect. that's why to protect against ransomware, malware behavior etc protection is needed [/QUOTE]
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