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<blockquote data-quote="SpiderWeb" data-source="post: 1068497" data-attributes="member: 88686">I refuse to agree with this argument. Beeper, from Apple&#039;s point of view is:1. In complete violation of iMessage terms of service AND2. Turning a security vulnerability into a business modelwhich is insane and honestly warrants a full lawsuit. Beeper is not an app, it is an APT. I feel like has anyone in the media even considered that Beeper is not actively breaching and trying to find new exploits in Apple&#039;s secure end-to-end encrypted messaging service and doing so in order to rid off Apple&#039;s messaging servers for free? And then having the nerve to charge their users money for that hackjob, not even reimbursing Apple for their infrastructure? Imagine if Google or Meta did what Beeper was doing, IMAGINE if the government was doing what Beeper was doing. We would clearly and correctly label it a privacy breach, there would be an outcry. You are accessing iMessage from an unsecured app on an unsecured device that has not the security and privacy safeguards in place that an iPhone does. And if Beeper can do so, that means anyone who wants to spoof a number and pretend to be a secure Apple contact can do so too. The vulnerability had to be closed. It was Apple&#039;s duty and responsibility to everyone who is using iMessage.RCS for iMessage will hopefully introduce all the interoperability that Android users desire without having to go through such intrusive lengths.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SpiderWeb, post: 1068497, member: 88686"] I refuse to agree with this argument. Beeper, from Apple's point of view is: 1. In complete violation of iMessage terms of service AND 2. Turning a security vulnerability into a business model which is insane and honestly warrants a full lawsuit. Beeper is not an app, it is an APT. I feel like has anyone in the media even considered that Beeper is not actively breaching and trying to find new exploits in Apple's secure end-to-end encrypted messaging service and doing so in order to rid off Apple's messaging servers for free? And then having the nerve to charge their users money for that hackjob, not even reimbursing Apple for their infrastructure? Imagine if Google or Meta did what Beeper was doing, IMAGINE if the government was doing what Beeper was doing. We would clearly and correctly label it a privacy breach, there would be an outcry. You are accessing iMessage from an unsecured app on an unsecured device that has not the security and privacy safeguards in place that an iPhone does. And if Beeper can do so, that means anyone who wants to spoof a number and pretend to be a secure Apple contact can do so too. The vulnerability had to be closed. It was Apple's duty and responsibility to everyone who is using iMessage. RCS for iMessage will hopefully introduce all the interoperability that Android users desire without having to go through such intrusive lengths. [/QUOTE]

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