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<blockquote data-quote="Andy Ful" data-source="post: 1121460" data-attributes="member: 32260"><p>Over 90% of AVs are awarded in AVLab tests, and apparently, it is not a problem for you. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite109" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>The tables do not make AVLab more trustworthy. They are published after a month, so no one can check how was the real detection in the tests. The trustworthiness of all professional AV testing labs (including AVLab) follows from the fact that AV vendors have full access to the samples and can participate in discussions about problematic detections.</p><p></p><p>Why do you believe in the results of video-tests? Such videos can be easily biased by removing the samples that compromised the promoted AV. Furthermore, the AV vendors cannot do anything about it. The trustworthiness of testers follows from other things. The video is only a nice form of test demonstration. This causes many shortcomings that are avoided in professional tests. If one would like to make a video to demonstrate the professional test, the video would last a few days and you could watch it only on a monitor bigger than your room. Furthermore, most people could not understand it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So look at the Shadowra tests about Avast and AVG, starting from the year 2023:</p><p><a href="https://malwaretips.com/threads/shadowras-big-comparative-episode-1-free-antivirus.134265/post-1112824" target="_blank">App Review - Shadowra's Big Comparative - Episode 1 : Free Antivirus</a></p><p>[URL unfurl="false"]https://malwaretips.com/threads/avg-internet-security-2024.131848/[/URL]</p><p><a href="https://malwaretips.com/threads/avast-free-antivirus-2024.128732/" target="_blank">App Review - Avast Free Antivirus 2024</a></p><p>[URL unfurl="false"]https://malwaretips.com/threads/avast-one-free-antivirus-2023.122817/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>The results are fully compatible with the results of (AV-Test, AV-Comparatives, AVLab, and SE Labs).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Many 0-day samples are detected by heuristics without using Behavior Monitoring. So, using the term "Behavioral protection" would be misguiding.</p><p><strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 168, 133)">But thanks for clarifying what is this thread for.</span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are no tests that include only 0-day samples. Any available test with 100+ in-the-wild samples uses more than 2/3 non-0-day samples. Kaspersky and Bitdefender were compromised many times in the available tests with fresh samples. Here is an example of compromising Bitdefender in the tests of your favorite AVLab:</p><p></p><p>1 fail: <a href="https://avlab.pl/en/results-march-2024/" target="_blank">Recent Results In March 2024 » AVLab Cybersecurity Foundation</a></p><p>5 fails: <a href="https://avlab.pl/en/results-may-2023/" target="_blank">Results May 2023 » AVLab Cybersecurity Foundation</a></p><p>5 fails <a href="https://avlab.pl/en/results-march-2023/" target="_blank">Results In May 2023 » AVLab Cybersecurity Foundation</a></p><p></p><p>By the way, Avast did not miss a single sample in all tests.</p><p></p><p>You may believe in what you want, but please do it consistently and objectively based on available data. Of course, there is nothing wrong with thinking that Kaspersky, Bitdefender, or Eset can provide top protection against 0-day malware at home or SMBs. There are many convincing data on it. However, the same data shows that Avast, AVG, and Norton are not inferior at all.</p><p></p><p>From the above AVs, I prefer Kaspersky. It can be tweaked with [USER=36043]@harlan4096[/USER] settings to apply the setup stronger than anything available in Bitdefender, Eset, Avast, AVG, and Norton. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite130" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs up (y)" loading="lazy" data-shortname="(y)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andy Ful, post: 1121460, member: 32260"] Over 90% of AVs are awarded in AVLab tests, and apparently, it is not a problem for you. :) The tables do not make AVLab more trustworthy. They are published after a month, so no one can check how was the real detection in the tests. The trustworthiness of all professional AV testing labs (including AVLab) follows from the fact that AV vendors have full access to the samples and can participate in discussions about problematic detections. Why do you believe in the results of video-tests? Such videos can be easily biased by removing the samples that compromised the promoted AV. Furthermore, the AV vendors cannot do anything about it. The trustworthiness of testers follows from other things. The video is only a nice form of test demonstration. This causes many shortcomings that are avoided in professional tests. If one would like to make a video to demonstrate the professional test, the video would last a few days and you could watch it only on a monitor bigger than your room. Furthermore, most people could not understand it. So look at the Shadowra tests about Avast and AVG, starting from the year 2023: [URL='https://malwaretips.com/threads/shadowras-big-comparative-episode-1-free-antivirus.134265/post-1112824']App Review - Shadowra's Big Comparative - Episode 1 : Free Antivirus[/URL] [URL unfurl="false"]https://malwaretips.com/threads/avg-internet-security-2024.131848/[/URL] [URL='https://malwaretips.com/threads/avast-free-antivirus-2024.128732/']App Review - Avast Free Antivirus 2024[/URL] [URL unfurl="false"]https://malwaretips.com/threads/avast-one-free-antivirus-2023.122817/[/URL] The results are fully compatible with the results of (AV-Test, AV-Comparatives, AVLab, and SE Labs). Many 0-day samples are detected by heuristics without using Behavior Monitoring. So, using the term "Behavioral protection" would be misguiding. [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 168, 133)]But thanks for clarifying what is this thread for.[/COLOR][/B] There are no tests that include only 0-day samples. Any available test with 100+ in-the-wild samples uses more than 2/3 non-0-day samples. Kaspersky and Bitdefender were compromised many times in the available tests with fresh samples. Here is an example of compromising Bitdefender in the tests of your favorite AVLab: 1 fail: [URL='https://avlab.pl/en/results-march-2024/']Recent Results In March 2024 » AVLab Cybersecurity Foundation[/URL] 5 fails: [URL='https://avlab.pl/en/results-may-2023/']Results May 2023 » AVLab Cybersecurity Foundation[/URL] 5 fails [URL='https://avlab.pl/en/results-march-2023/']Results In May 2023 » AVLab Cybersecurity Foundation[/URL] By the way, Avast did not miss a single sample in all tests. You may believe in what you want, but please do it consistently and objectively based on available data. Of course, there is nothing wrong with thinking that Kaspersky, Bitdefender, or Eset can provide top protection against 0-day malware at home or SMBs. There are many convincing data on it. However, the same data shows that Avast, AVG, and Norton are not inferior at all. From the above AVs, I prefer Kaspersky. It can be tweaked with [USER=36043]@harlan4096[/USER] settings to apply the setup stronger than anything available in Bitdefender, Eset, Avast, AVG, and Norton. (y) [/QUOTE]
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