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Best password manager ( Free & Paid ) & why ?
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<blockquote data-quote="IceMan7" data-source="post: 1122995" data-attributes="member: 121355"><p>Yes, I am skeptical for many reasons.</p><p></p><p>I don't know what sources you are citing and what you are quoting, but:</p><p>1. Just because it is open source does not mean that its code has been analyzed from A to Z. I have read many articles where these audits of external companies do not analyze the entire code out of "laziness".</p><p>2. Brave is also an open source browser and no one has detected any mistakes in its code. People have only just realized that they had add-ons like a miner installed with the browser.</p><p>3. How many people use the paid Bitwarden? A promille probably. The company gives you full security for free? Do you believe in that? Google also provided privacy in many cases and then there was one blunder after another.</p><p>4. How can you be sure that they do not have some kind of a skeleton key, since they are subject to American law?</p><p>5. How many people make their own hosting? Most of them fly due to lack of knowledge or convenience on Bitwarden's cloud solution on Microsoft servers</p><p>6. After the LastPass mishap, Bitwarden gained popularity. Are you sure that a company that makes pennies will defend its customers? Or won't get a warrant from some 3-letter US law?</p><p>7. VPNs weren't supposed to collect anything either. You could read almost everyone's certainty of 100% privacy. The truth turned out to be different.</p><p>8. And many other things. Free, from the US, cloud in Microsoft, popular, etc. Just connect the dots.</p><p></p><p>Yes, Proton is subject to Swiss law, but if they don't collect anything, they have nothing to pass on to third parties. Nevertheless, I don't believe it at all. The old wise proverb - if something is in the cloud (any cloud service) it's not just yours anymore. Especially when you see that Bitwarden is a US company.</p><p></p><p>If someone believes that Bitwarden is so wonderful because it provides this and that (and is from the US), let them believe it. I am not easily loyal. And that is why I think it is not the best and most secure.</p><p>The current popularity of password managers definitely has a second layer. And in my opinion, these are just another privacy thief.</p><p></p><p>The best password manager is a local Keepass. Passwords are only yours. Or a notebook <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite110" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>PS </p><p>I am not belittling the functionality of Bitwarden. Simple, easy to use, many functions in the free version. You don't even need a paid version, because in the free version you have almost everything in the options.</p><p>But in terms of security, I already trust Proton faster. But I don't even trust them 100%.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IceMan7, post: 1122995, member: 121355"] Yes, I am skeptical for many reasons. I don't know what sources you are citing and what you are quoting, but: 1. Just because it is open source does not mean that its code has been analyzed from A to Z. I have read many articles where these audits of external companies do not analyze the entire code out of "laziness". 2. Brave is also an open source browser and no one has detected any mistakes in its code. People have only just realized that they had add-ons like a miner installed with the browser. 3. How many people use the paid Bitwarden? A promille probably. The company gives you full security for free? Do you believe in that? Google also provided privacy in many cases and then there was one blunder after another. 4. How can you be sure that they do not have some kind of a skeleton key, since they are subject to American law? 5. How many people make their own hosting? Most of them fly due to lack of knowledge or convenience on Bitwarden's cloud solution on Microsoft servers 6. After the LastPass mishap, Bitwarden gained popularity. Are you sure that a company that makes pennies will defend its customers? Or won't get a warrant from some 3-letter US law? 7. VPNs weren't supposed to collect anything either. You could read almost everyone's certainty of 100% privacy. The truth turned out to be different. 8. And many other things. Free, from the US, cloud in Microsoft, popular, etc. Just connect the dots. Yes, Proton is subject to Swiss law, but if they don't collect anything, they have nothing to pass on to third parties. Nevertheless, I don't believe it at all. The old wise proverb - if something is in the cloud (any cloud service) it's not just yours anymore. Especially when you see that Bitwarden is a US company. If someone believes that Bitwarden is so wonderful because it provides this and that (and is from the US), let them believe it. I am not easily loyal. And that is why I think it is not the best and most secure. The current popularity of password managers definitely has a second layer. And in my opinion, these are just another privacy thief. The best password manager is a local Keepass. Passwords are only yours. Or a notebook ;) PS I am not belittling the functionality of Bitwarden. Simple, easy to use, many functions in the free version. You don't even need a paid version, because in the free version you have almost everything in the options. But in terms of security, I already trust Proton faster. But I don't even trust them 100%. [/QUOTE]
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