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<blockquote data-quote="ForgottenSeer 72227" data-source="post: 787756"><p>Ah the good old never ending security program cycle every time a test comes out. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite127" alt=":sick:" title="Sick :sick:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":sick:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>While these are great programs in their own right and they do their job very well, you can still get infected using them. Simply ignoring the prompts and allowing the file to run, a piece of malware can infect a system.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree, every test should be taken with a grain of salt. Problem is people put too much weight into things like YouTube tests because they've been marketed (this is exactly what it is) by the YouTube testers as being more accurate/better than the professional tests out there. Furthermore they act like they are security experts, when all they are doing is right click scanning a folder with malware with the real-time protection disabled, then running the missed samples with the real-time enabled. This isn't how people use their computers, nor realistic of how people actually run into malware. I'm not saying these people are evil or anything, but they are not security experts like some claim to be and its not as simple as they make out to be either.</p><p></p><p>The other side of this is exactly like you said, there's bias towards products people like and products people hate. Unfortunately this bias shows through, but people still drink the cool-aid regardless. What I hate about YouTube tests in general is there's little validation of the samples. We really only have their word on the matter, but how do we really know that they just didn't set up the test beforehand to get the result they wanted, then make a video of it?</p><p></p><p>To your second point, that can be true, but more settings/configuration options doesn't automatically = better protection. Sometimes these things can be overwhelming and if your aren't sure what they do, it can actually make it worse. These things appeal to us geeks because we like to play around with them, but to the average person, they couldn't care less becuase how many of them actually change these settings?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes and no. I would take it a step further and say people expect way too much of all security programs in general, free/paid. I always preach to practice safe habits regardless of which program/setup you use. Your habits are a very important layer in the overall security envelop. Like you said, no product is perfect and will fail at some point, especially if you practice unsafe habits.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe, but as I've said before no product is perfect and will miss things. I'm always amazed when people are shocked that a piece of malware gets by a security program, as if it was to be 100% perfect. The sad part is, no matter how many times you say that any product will miss something at some point, people will always go, ya, ya I know that, but I still can't believe it happened. It's not fiction, it's a real fact all security program will miss something, it doesn't matter how well it does on tests here or else where, it will eventually happen.</p><p></p><p>At the end of the day, I see no reason to stress about this test. Just another example showing that you still have to practice safe habits, in this case ensure you backup your data and not put 100% if your faith into the program. Pick which ever program you like, practice safe habits and chances are you will be more than safe. :emoji_expressionless<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite111" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />y)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ForgottenSeer 72227, post: 787756"] Ah the good old never ending security program cycle every time a test comes out. :sick: While these are great programs in their own right and they do their job very well, you can still get infected using them. Simply ignoring the prompts and allowing the file to run, a piece of malware can infect a system. I agree, every test should be taken with a grain of salt. Problem is people put too much weight into things like YouTube tests because they've been marketed (this is exactly what it is) by the YouTube testers as being more accurate/better than the professional tests out there. Furthermore they act like they are security experts, when all they are doing is right click scanning a folder with malware with the real-time protection disabled, then running the missed samples with the real-time enabled. This isn't how people use their computers, nor realistic of how people actually run into malware. I'm not saying these people are evil or anything, but they are not security experts like some claim to be and its not as simple as they make out to be either. The other side of this is exactly like you said, there's bias towards products people like and products people hate. Unfortunately this bias shows through, but people still drink the cool-aid regardless. What I hate about YouTube tests in general is there's little validation of the samples. We really only have their word on the matter, but how do we really know that they just didn't set up the test beforehand to get the result they wanted, then make a video of it? To your second point, that can be true, but more settings/configuration options doesn't automatically = better protection. Sometimes these things can be overwhelming and if your aren't sure what they do, it can actually make it worse. These things appeal to us geeks because we like to play around with them, but to the average person, they couldn't care less becuase how many of them actually change these settings? Yes and no. I would take it a step further and say people expect way too much of all security programs in general, free/paid. I always preach to practice safe habits regardless of which program/setup you use. Your habits are a very important layer in the overall security envelop. Like you said, no product is perfect and will fail at some point, especially if you practice unsafe habits. Maybe, but as I've said before no product is perfect and will miss things. I'm always amazed when people are shocked that a piece of malware gets by a security program, as if it was to be 100% perfect. The sad part is, no matter how many times you say that any product will miss something at some point, people will always go, ya, ya I know that, but I still can't believe it happened. It's not fiction, it's a real fact all security program will miss something, it doesn't matter how well it does on tests here or else where, it will eventually happen. At the end of the day, I see no reason to stress about this test. Just another example showing that you still have to practice safe habits, in this case ensure you backup your data and not put 100% if your faith into the program. Pick which ever program you like, practice safe habits and chances are you will be more than safe. :emoji_expressionless:(y) [/QUOTE]
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