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BSidesMCR 2018: Next Gen AV vs My Shitty Code by James Williams
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<blockquote data-quote="AtlBo" data-source="post: 758291" data-attributes="member: 32547"><p>Anyone know how OSArmor would do against this single type of bypass?</p><p></p><p>On 32 v 64 bit attacks. Does this mean that a 64 bit OS running Cylance is not vulnerable at all or are 32 bit Windows processes within a 64 bit OS still vulnerable? I thought his test was showing that a 32 bit application in Windows 64 can be compromised, so that Cylance can then be disabled...or at least that it was explained this way if not demoed.</p><p></p><p>Oh yeah, no money in this kind of compromise of a home PC? I disagree with that. Friend of my mother recently had 4 accounts emptied via a very personal attack (her entire life savings/inheritance and everything else). This kind of compromise could easily have been part of the reason the attackers were able to steal her identity. Looks like she will get most of her money back, but using direct deposit and other less than secure methods for sharing online accounting information are probably the reason she ended up in the situation. She is an accountant with her own practice/business. Also, her phone may have been part of the problem.</p><p></p><p>I can understand how a locked down system would not be vulnerable in this situation. That makes sense, but security software is only present at all as a failsafe. As a result, there isn't imo a reason that Cylance should ignore doing something about the 32 bit issue for instance. Anyway, I am sure they will at some point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AtlBo, post: 758291, member: 32547"] Anyone know how OSArmor would do against this single type of bypass? On 32 v 64 bit attacks. Does this mean that a 64 bit OS running Cylance is not vulnerable at all or are 32 bit Windows processes within a 64 bit OS still vulnerable? I thought his test was showing that a 32 bit application in Windows 64 can be compromised, so that Cylance can then be disabled...or at least that it was explained this way if not demoed. Oh yeah, no money in this kind of compromise of a home PC? I disagree with that. Friend of my mother recently had 4 accounts emptied via a very personal attack (her entire life savings/inheritance and everything else). This kind of compromise could easily have been part of the reason the attackers were able to steal her identity. Looks like she will get most of her money back, but using direct deposit and other less than secure methods for sharing online accounting information are probably the reason she ended up in the situation. She is an accountant with her own practice/business. Also, her phone may have been part of the problem. I can understand how a locked down system would not be vulnerable in this situation. That makes sense, but security software is only present at all as a failsafe. As a result, there isn't imo a reason that Cylance should ignore doing something about the 32 bit issue for instance. Anyway, I am sure they will at some point. [/QUOTE]
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