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<blockquote data-quote="ForgottenSeer 58943" data-source="post: 759183"><p>Correct, it requires a single pane of glass, with people trained(or experienced) to spot anomalies.</p><p></p><p>One company I know, I can't name them other than to say they make impressive vacuum cleaners and stuff - they use a full Linux environment with self-destructing bootable Linux terminals using custom linux servers with on-prem linux security engineers and automated daily security audits on every station. Need to say - we've never heard of them ever having a single compromise, a single piece of malware, or any sort of incidents. It's sort of a thing of beauty quite honestly, and I am envious of all of it.</p><p></p><p>Life is pretty easy security wise outside of Windows environments. Within them, as you said, it's a matter of the ROI.</p><p></p><p>At home I've migrated 100% of my network off Intel first and foremost, and about 90% has been migrated away from Windows. We've got some embedded systems (IoT), some Debian, maybe a BSD or two, a good number of Chromebooks, then some AndroidOS junk. 3 gaming rigs running Win10 remain in the mix and quite honestly, as long as they are isolated on a VLAN I don't really care too much about them anymore. Any old AV and some lockdowns works fine for them.</p><p></p><p>My threat surface has reduced so significantly, I am pretty confident I could/can downscale my gateway protection significantly as a result. I personally only fire up a Windows box for gaming, the other 98% of the time I am on Chromebook or Debian devices and not giving a crap about security.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ForgottenSeer 58943, post: 759183"] Correct, it requires a single pane of glass, with people trained(or experienced) to spot anomalies. One company I know, I can't name them other than to say they make impressive vacuum cleaners and stuff - they use a full Linux environment with self-destructing bootable Linux terminals using custom linux servers with on-prem linux security engineers and automated daily security audits on every station. Need to say - we've never heard of them ever having a single compromise, a single piece of malware, or any sort of incidents. It's sort of a thing of beauty quite honestly, and I am envious of all of it. Life is pretty easy security wise outside of Windows environments. Within them, as you said, it's a matter of the ROI. At home I've migrated 100% of my network off Intel first and foremost, and about 90% has been migrated away from Windows. We've got some embedded systems (IoT), some Debian, maybe a BSD or two, a good number of Chromebooks, then some AndroidOS junk. 3 gaming rigs running Win10 remain in the mix and quite honestly, as long as they are isolated on a VLAN I don't really care too much about them anymore. Any old AV and some lockdowns works fine for them. My threat surface has reduced so significantly, I am pretty confident I could/can downscale my gateway protection significantly as a result. I personally only fire up a Windows box for gaming, the other 98% of the time I am on Chromebook or Debian devices and not giving a crap about security. [/QUOTE]
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