Serious Discussion fedora 40

[simmerskool]

The first time a tried to install fedora 40 in VMware 17.6 there was a user balk install failure and I moved on. But I came back to fedora 40 iso w/gnome and installed it tonight without a peep. Very sweet! user very happy! I need to spend more time with it, but suspect this might be the perfect distro (for me). So far it does stuff the other distros do, only better.

 

[Bot]

Glad to hear you're enjoying Fedora 40! It's indeed a solid distro with a lot of unique features. Feel free to share any tips or issues you encounter, we're here to help!

 

[TuxTalk]

The first time a tried to install fedora 40 in VMware 17.6 there was a user balk install failure and I moved on. But I came back to fedora 40 iso w/gnome and installed it tonight without a peep. Very sweet! user very happy! I need to spend more time with it, but suspect this might be the perfect distro (for me). So far it does stuff the other distros do, only better.

Fedora is nice, i really like it , but... its a semi rolling release to test the packages from RedHat, things can break on Fedora.
Installed it so many times and experienced small irritating things happening. Maybe try 41 but not installed for now.

 

[Brahman]

Do try easyeffects audio Equalizer app from the store, if you are an audiophile you will surely enjoy it.

 

[simmerskool]

Fedora is nice, i really like it , but... its a semi rolling release to test the packages from RedHat, things can break on Fedora.
Installed it so many times and experienced small irritating things happening. Maybe try 41 but not installed for now.

for sure I need to run fedora for a month or so before I can have a meaningful comment, but short-term comment so far happy happy and I'm just scratching the surface.

 

[simmerskool]

Do try easyeffects audio Equalizer app from the store, if you are an audiophile you will surely enjoy it.

thanks I'll checkout easyeffects Eq. Meanwhile, I downloaded an audio file and listening with headphones using Rhythmbox and audio is very good on Fedora. Maybe I fixed "issue" for other distros too...? Something about fedora has totally grabbed me so far, so much so that I changed my avatar. I guess it's not one thing but the combo of features. Smooth solid and makes sense. Maybe I will never break it and it will get better and better

EDIT ...or not? I just clicked the youtube link and the audio is choppy as if there's a download bottleneck speedtest in the browser is 253 Mbps (faster at the router) so seems not a broadband issue but in fedora I have not installed ALL codecs yet...

 

[simmerskool]

Ugh, I just spent 90 min with chatgpt working on audio in fedora 40. Using both rhythmbox with an already downloaded audio file and streaming audio from youtube, the initial first 15 sec of playback pulsates, then smooths out all by itself to play perfectly. chatgpt suggested adding code to .conf files that did not exist or were blank. It seems WEIRD to me that playback autocorrects itself in the sense that if the code or formatting is wrong it should not play correctly ever. chatgpt was trying to figure out if audio system was pipewire or pulseaudio -- it appears to be pipewire. fedora should be installation default except I did download some more codecs at suggestion of chatgpt. any linux/fedora/audio engineers listening -- help! Once I survive the first 15 sec, the playback sounds perfect, I'd give up on audio if not for that...

 

[simmerskool]

PS the above audio is not unique to fedora 40, I had audio issues with just about every distro, except for maybe MX (iirc).

 

[Brahman]

Ugh, I just spent 90 min with chatgpt working on audio in fedora 40. Using both rhythmbox with an already downloaded audio file and streaming audio from youtube, the initial first 15 sec of playback pulsates, then smooths out all by itself to play perfectly. chatgpt suggested adding code to .conf files that did not exist or were blank. It seems WEIRD to me that playback autocorrects itself in the sense that if the code or formatting is wrong it should not play correctly ever. chatgpt was trying to figure out if audio system was pipewire or pulseaudio -- it appears to be pipewire. fedora should be installation default except I did download some more codecs at suggestion of chatgpt. any linux/fedora/audio engineers listening -- help! Once I survive the first 15 sec, the playback sounds perfect, I'd give up on audio if not for that...

Your issue might be the default audio "power-save" feature with the Linux kernel. you can try the following work around.
Enter the following commands.
1.

echo "0" | sudo tee /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save

Now, without rebooting test whether the issue has resolved or not. If it's resolved make the changes permanent by executing the below command and reboot.
2.

echo "options snd_hda_intel power_save=0" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/audio_disable_powersave.conf

 

[simmerskool]

Your issue might be the default audio "power-save" feature with the Linux kernel. you can try the following work around.
Enter the following commands one by one and reboot your pc.
1.

2.

wow! this sounds like a fix (pun intended) but no time to try it tonight, but will do tomorrow. I am optimistic. Meanwhile, this sounds like something chatGPT should have suggested since as you say it is in the kernel. I've been over-estimating how smart AI is or I need a better AI linux chat friend. I also did a quick skim search at fedora forum and did not spot this issue/fix.

 

[Brahman]

wow! this sounds like a fix (pun intended) but no time to try it tonight, but will do tomorrow. I am optimistic. Meanwhile, this sounds like something chatGPT should have suggested since as you say it is in the kernel. I've been over-estimating how smart AI is or I need a better AI linux chat friend. I also did a quick skim search at fedora forum and did not spot this issue/fix.

I have made a change to my post. It's more clear now. Sorry for the inconvenience. Oh and one more thing, incase if it's found that the commands are not working, please check what kind of sound card you are having by using the following command.

cat /proc/asound/modules

In most cases it will be "snd_hda_intel". But if the command returns something like "snd_usb_audio", make the changes in the commands by replacing the part "snd_hda_intel" with "snd_usb_audio".

chatgpt was trying to figure out if audio system was pipewire or pulseaudio.

That's a bummer from AI, chatgpt ought have known that "Red Hat" (Wim Taymans) was the pioneer in pipewire. They coded it in 2015. Fedora 34 was the first adopter of pipewire in the year 2021. It's a blasphemy to check for pulseaudio in fedora in the year 2024.

 

[simmerskool]

Your issue might be the default audio "power-save" feature with the Linux kernel. you can try the following work around.
Enter the following commands.
1.

Now, without rebooting test whether the issue has resolved or not. If it's resolved make the changes permanent by executing the below command and reboot.
2.

good suggestions, but they did not work. unclear if VMware is an issue or if purely between pipewire and sound card? I've spent an inordinate amount of time on this issue. But I can say it's been a learning experience in one way or another: to pound head into wall, or not?
PS no reply in fedora forum, so far, seems like this should be an easy fix, I have least 4 hours into it with chatGPT sidekick, who has the pseudo-patience of a saint. Never flustered, let's try this... ... ....

EDIT tried wider google search and Arch Linux wiki has info regarding pipewire related issues. I remain optimistic

[SOLVED] Get bit-perfect audio with PipeWire / Multimedia and Games / Arch Linux Forums

bbs.archlinux.org

 

[simmerskool]

more "research" outside of chatGPT & I see I am not alone re these type pipewire audio issues. I think audio played ok in MX, I should see what its using and how it is configured, maybe I can incorporate into fedora.