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- Apr 16, 2017
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Isn't that what the Firefox guy said earlier.
Edit: 4 months ago in latest news (below article headline),
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But, i agree somehow about windows defender is the only av not making everything less stable.
Edit: 4 months ago in latest news (below article headline),
.But, i agree somehow about windows defender is the only av not making everything less stable.
- Dec 28, 2016
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I say yes.
But I think you have to see all security features of windows (10) as a whole and use them. If you take full advantage of smartscreen, UAC, work with user account only, use SRP, enable PUP support for WD, install all updates, and don't forget brain.exe, you have quite a solid security infrastructure.
But I think you have to see all security features of windows (10) as a whole and use them. If you take full advantage of smartscreen, UAC, work with user account only, use SRP, enable PUP support for WD, install all updates, and don't forget brain.exe, you have quite a solid security infrastructure.
Sadly few people have our understanding of Windows built-in security, they still see them as independent components.
- Aug 13, 2012
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In it is as also fault Microsoft. How do you think ?
The truth they have already started to work in this direction, is appreciable on Creators Update and Fall Creators Update (Redstone 3).
There is not enough graph of UAC, it's a pity.
- Dec 28, 2016
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Yea, you are completely right. But I also think that Microsoft did not a good job explaining that to the users. It is not easy for non experienced users to get to know all this security features, understand how they work together and configure them.
Creators update is a smal step in the right direction by grouping some security tools but there is still a way to go...
- Dec 28, 2016
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- May 26, 2014
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Whats next?,Only Edge behave well? lol,Google Chrome slows down my computer,Maybe Harris needs to swing by the shop and put in a application
- Apr 28, 2017
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The Chrome engineer said that because, WD will not interfere with other software like many AVs do.
Windows Defender and Smartscreen (App control) only protect the system.
Very clean very well behaved.
Windows Defender and Smartscreen (App control) only protect the system.
Very clean very well behaved.
- Nov 26, 2016
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“the only well behaved AV”
Of course it is. It doesn't have any protection features that can actually make a difference. No reactive behavior blocker, no reactive cloud, just bunch of "proactive" features I frankly don't even know if they even do anything. At all.
If your protection system involves complex HTTP stream, behavior analysis and cloud like found in avast!, Kaspersky or Bitdefender, of course chances of misbehaving are higher. It's a more complex system. That's the same as saying Mercedes S class with top of the line equipment is more likely to break down and have high repair costs opposed to Dacia Sandero, base model. Of course, the later has nothing really to offer. Windows Defender IS Dacia Sandero of antiviruses. It works really well for basic functionality and gets you to destination, but it's just that.
Of course it is. It doesn't have any protection features that can actually make a difference. No reactive behavior blocker, no reactive cloud, just bunch of "proactive" features I frankly don't even know if they even do anything. At all.
If your protection system involves complex HTTP stream, behavior analysis and cloud like found in avast!, Kaspersky or Bitdefender, of course chances of misbehaving are higher. It's a more complex system. That's the same as saying Mercedes S class with top of the line equipment is more likely to break down and have high repair costs opposed to Dacia Sandero, base model. Of course, the later has nothing really to offer. Windows Defender IS Dacia Sandero of antiviruses. It works really well for basic functionality and gets you to destination, but it's just that.
- Nov 17, 2016
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They're the one who creates browsers (Firefox and Chrome) and Microsoft created both a browser and an antivirus.
Firefox said this first.
and that is all average users can handle.
- Nov 17, 2016
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Go to some other security forums, you will see me drilling this into some "advanced" members cranium...
I think average users can handle windows defender but they are much more likely to get infected because they don't understand about UAC, SUA, windows firewall. We assume they are default-allow users. The only thing, besides the signatures, which can protect them is the system-wise Smartscreen, perhaps most of them don't know where the Allow/run button is. However, in eastern countries, using USBs, external drives are very common and in this case, I don't think SS will react
- May 22, 2017
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Average users with horrible surfing practices will end up in trouble whether they use the built in security or 3rd party security, and no truer statement exists in this thread. No security will save a user from themselves.
As for 3rd party security bugs becoming an issue , especially for average users, I would ask that any of you stop over in the Norton forum to view an example, where Norton's firewall is blocking Facebook from loading properly, and most of the average users in that thread have defaulted to completely disabling Norton's firewall so they can surf facebook
Users do not need more security features added, they need to learn better habits and how to use what they have.
As for 3rd party security bugs becoming an issue , especially for average users, I would ask that any of you stop over in the Norton forum to view an example, where Norton's firewall is blocking Facebook from loading properly, and most of the average users in that thread have defaulted to completely disabling Norton's firewall so they can surf facebook
Users do not need more security features added, they need to learn better habits and how to use what they have.
- Feb 13, 2017
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If you are savvy enough you can manage security by using WD and other technologies that Windows (10) provides, zero cost and everything is well integrated in the Windows kernel.
If not, you can entrust yourself to third-party products which in some cases may offer more protection, but not always, because in all these cases it is fundamental the user's approach towards safety culture.
If not, you can entrust yourself to third-party products which in some cases may offer more protection, but not always, because in all these cases it is fundamental the user's approach towards safety culture.
- May 26, 2014
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I totally agree that every user should learn about the safe browsing habitsAverage users with horrible surfing practices will end up in trouble whether they use the built in security or 3rd party security, and no truer statement exists in this thread. No security will save a user from themselves.
As for 3rd party security bugs becoming an issue , especially for average users, I would ask that any of you stop over in the Norton forum to view an example, where Norton's firewall is blocking Facebook from loading properly, and most of the average users in that thread have defaulted to completely disabling Norton's firewall so they can surf facebook
Users do not need more security features added, they need to learn better habits and how to use what they have.
However, for specific types of users who cannot do it or they refuse to use windows 10, it's better to install or setup better configurations other than WD
almost everyone around me only knows how to open chrome, word, excel, copy&paste documents, that's it. Also most of them don't understand english. The windows version in my language is horrible and nowhere near the original meanings. I can't force them to do what they don't want to do and we don't have time to show them how to do ABC like what we can do in 1 day
I always setup Avast free with slightly tweaked settings + appcheck antiransomware free for all people around me. none of them have got any infection for years. They are happy with the performance and usability
The only problem they have is when avast was causing BSODs after a few hours of using with windows 7 and they fixed it quickly
- Aug 17, 2013
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Wasn't it only a few weeks ago that their was a critical bug in Windows defender? So I don't think it's completely fair to say all other AV vendors other than MS cause problems specially with web browsers. I've used many 3rd party security products over the years and never have any of them caused any security issues or bugs with web browsers. I think it's amazing that Google recommend we only use WD but only recently there was a critical bug in WD and MS have been known to be extremely slow patching vulnerabilities.
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