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How is backup software beneficial to computer security and not detrimental?
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<blockquote data-quote="Yellowing" data-source="post: 746702" data-attributes="member: 72894"><p>...</p><p>I was about to compress the meaning and outcome of this thread into one sentence and write about differences between "security" and "safety", when I realized I don't exactly know them. :emoji_flushed: So I googled and it came out that what I thought they were is wrong. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite118" alt=":oops:" title="Oops! :oops:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":oops:" /> This is also why I made this thread. :emoji_flushed: (This could be true for you too. It's common to use them interchangeably. :X3: Please read further. :notworthy: <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite126" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL :ROFLMAO:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" />) There is only one word for something like security and safety in my language. (German: Sicherheit) Knowing proper definitions is important. So I learned them. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite135" alt=":giggle:" title="Giggle :giggle:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":giggle:" /></p><p></p><p>After reading many comparisons and definitions, it turns out that <strong>safety is created by security</strong>.</p><p><strong>Safety </strong>is the condition or feeling of being free from harm, threats, dangers, or risk of any undesired changes - meaning: being in a <strong>"steady-state"</strong>. </p><p><strong>Security </strong>is the process or means of delaying, preventing, and protecting against any threats that hinder or destroy the <strong>"steady-state"</strong>, increasing risk-factors or risk directly.</p><p>A weakness in <strong>security </strong>means an increase in <strong>risk </strong>which decreases <strong>safety</strong>.</p><p>A sudden threat to <strong>safety </strong>is sign of weak <strong>security</strong>.</p><p>However a feeling of weak <strong>safety </strong>does not necessarily mean that <strong>security </strong>is weak. <em>(I started highlighting the terms and now I don't know when to stop :emoji_sob<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite109" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></em></p><p><strong>"to increase security"</strong> therefore means: "Putting a mechanism/automatism or procedure in place to reduce <strong>risk </strong>of threats to the <strong>steady-state</strong>."</p><p>That means that <strong>"Increasing safety"</strong> is a recursive way of saying <strong>"increasing security"</strong>, and therefore nonsense. (Not-logical) Because the process of <strong>"increasing safety" </strong>is by putting more <strong>security </strong>measures in place, and that would be a process of <strong>"increasing security"</strong>. In other words it is: Confusing cause and effect.</p><p><em>-This is combined from many sources - meaning: Me, trying to make sense of half-hearted definitions. :X3:<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite134" alt=":coffee:" title="Coffee :coffee:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":coffee:" /></em></p><p></p><p>Now I'll try to sum this, the definitions and the outcome of the thread, all up: :emoji_cold_sweat:</p><p><strong>Backing up your data is a security-procedure increasing data-safety by reducing the risk of losing (important) data. However, without proper system-security in place, the (security-) procedure of "backing up your files" becomes itself a threat/risk to the future-safety of your system.</strong></p><p></p><p>Does everyone agree? :X3::notworthy:</p><p></p><p></p><p>PS: Oh boy... I'm not sure if it is good or bad that I need that depth of understanding in order to change my opinion.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite126" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL :ROFLMAO:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" /> (That means I'm going to change my vote to "yea")</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yellowing, post: 746702, member: 72894"] ... I was about to compress the meaning and outcome of this thread into one sentence and write about differences between "security" and "safety", when I realized I don't exactly know them. :emoji_flushed: So I googled and it came out that what I thought they were is wrong. :oops: This is also why I made this thread. :emoji_flushed: (This could be true for you too. It's common to use them interchangeably. :X3: Please read further. :notworthy: :ROFLMAO:) There is only one word for something like security and safety in my language. (German: Sicherheit) Knowing proper definitions is important. So I learned them. :giggle: After reading many comparisons and definitions, it turns out that [B]safety is created by security[/B]. [B]Safety [/B]is the condition or feeling of being free from harm, threats, dangers, or risk of any undesired changes - meaning: being in a [B]"steady-state"[/B]. [B]Security [/B]is the process or means of delaying, preventing, and protecting against any threats that hinder or destroy the [B]"steady-state"[/B], increasing risk-factors or risk directly. A weakness in [B]security [/B]means an increase in [B]risk [/B]which decreases [B]safety[/B]. A sudden threat to [B]safety [/B]is sign of weak [B]security[/B]. However a feeling of weak [B]safety [/B]does not necessarily mean that [B]security [/B]is weak. [I](I started highlighting the terms and now I don't know when to stop :emoji_sob:)[/I] [B]"to increase security"[/B] therefore means: "Putting a mechanism/automatism or procedure in place to reduce [B]risk [/B]of threats to the [B]steady-state[/B]." That means that [B]"Increasing safety"[/B] is a recursive way of saying [B]"increasing security"[/B], and therefore nonsense. (Not-logical) Because the process of [B]"increasing safety" [/B]is by putting more [B]security [/B]measures in place, and that would be a process of [B]"increasing security"[/B]. In other words it is: Confusing cause and effect. [I]-This is combined from many sources - meaning: Me, trying to make sense of half-hearted definitions. :X3::coffee:[/I] Now I'll try to sum this, the definitions and the outcome of the thread, all up: :emoji_cold_sweat: [B]Backing up your data is a security-procedure increasing data-safety by reducing the risk of losing (important) data. However, without proper system-security in place, the (security-) procedure of "backing up your files" becomes itself a threat/risk to the future-safety of your system.[/B] Does everyone agree? :X3::notworthy: PS: Oh boy... I'm not sure if it is good or bad that I need that depth of understanding in order to change my opinion.:ROFLMAO: (That means I'm going to change my vote to "yea") [/QUOTE]
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