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<blockquote data-quote="Dex4Sure" data-source="post: 931533" data-attributes="member: 79841">I used Windows 10 default security since 2015 almost all the time. In fact Windows 8.1 days already used integrated Windows Defender mostly. For no reason other than it being super light (lighter than WD) and almost no bloat (I consider &quot;banking protection&quot; bloatware) picked up licence for Eset Internet Security just few days ago.Concluded most other products are either too resource hogging or simply too bloated for my taste. And I really have tried nearly all of them over the years multiple times on different systems. Some of them have gotten better, some of them worse, mostly due to excessive bloatware. I don&#039;t like how AV products try to bundle VPNs with them... I use 3rd party VPN (TorGuard atm) and have no interest in these bundled VPNs. I also don&#039;t like them including password managers (again use 3rd party like Bitwarden), PC clean up tools (imo just use Windows 10 built in tools).Now, data encryption tools maybe useful for those who run Win 10 Home version. But since I use Win 10 Pro, I just use BitLocker. Oh and providing cloud back up... There&#039;s much better options. To name a few; Google Drive, OneDrive, Dropbox. A lot of these AV companies have really became just marketing companies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dex4Sure, post: 931533, member: 79841"] I used Windows 10 default security since 2015 almost all the time. In fact Windows 8.1 days already used integrated Windows Defender mostly. For no reason other than it being super light (lighter than WD) and almost no bloat (I consider "banking protection" bloatware) picked up licence for Eset Internet Security just few days ago. Concluded most other products are either too resource hogging or simply too bloated for my taste. And I really have tried nearly all of them over the years multiple times on different systems. Some of them have gotten better, some of them worse, mostly due to excessive bloatware. I don't like how AV products try to bundle VPNs with them... I use 3rd party VPN (TorGuard atm) and have no interest in these bundled VPNs. I also don't like them including password managers (again use 3rd party like Bitwarden), PC clean up tools (imo just use Windows 10 built in tools). Now, data encryption tools maybe useful for those who run Win 10 Home version. But since I use Win 10 Pro, I just use BitLocker. Oh and providing cloud back up... There's much better options. To name a few; Google Drive, OneDrive, Dropbox. A lot of these AV companies have really became just marketing companies. [/QUOTE]

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