Advice Request How strong is Windows Defender on Windows 10?

[Prayag]

Hello friends, i am playing with the idea of just using up to date windows defender on windows 10. As you know, i love to set up free security configuration.
So, i want to ask if my setup will be all right.
My setup will be to use windows defender with pup registry hack enabled, alongwith comodo firewall at cruelsister's settings.
Is it really good?
Is windows defender enough good to be used along side cfw?
I don't want to use avast,bd free,qihoo 360.
Thanks for the future suggestions.

 

[lobo001]

Good question!!! Under my humble opinion, I have to say that WD has improved a lot with respect to the past, even so, I think there are better options (even in free products !!) ...
I think everything depends on your computer habits ... The more you risk, the better AV option you should have !!

 

[Deleted member 178]

Yes it is, i use it alongside Appguard, because i see no benefits of disabling it ; by the way , it detect and block Doublepulsar.

 

[RoboMan]

Hello mate!

On Windows 10, Defender behaves really good. It has been a long debate wether WD plays it better than 3rd parties since it was less intrusive on other softwares (check the recent thread). So far, it's a really good option, it does not bother with pop ups or offers and it gives decent protection. Of course, comparatives set WD as "not that good" because of its detection rate. In my opinion, this makes it better, since the software works analyzing all systems world wide and realizing which malwares are out and which malwares are outdated, giving you an overall bad ratio on comparatives, and almost perfect ratio on real life recent malware.

I would set it up with VoodooShield and Windows Firewall, or CFW sounds good.

 

[ZeroDay]

If you're using CF at CS settings WD is perfectly fine.

 

[bulamber]

How strong is WD on win 8.1 ?

 

[hirudora56]

With cfw defender should play nicely. WD has really improved its signatures. But where wd falls short is PUP detection. And defender has absolutely no behavior shield to block a zero day threat.

 

[Winter Soldier]

WD is strong enough for a careful approach to security.
You make a reasoning: a powerful commercial AV for example, can detect more malware, ok, but how can malware infect your PC? You opened the door to it, due to haste, distraction, a weakness moment... you can be victim of social engineering attack designed to exploit your weakness, etc.
I used WD+ Sandboxie on another computer ( on Windows 8.1 before and then upgraded to Windows 10), for a long time and no infection.

 

[shmu26]

How strong is WD on win 8.1 ?

Windows Defender is good on Windows 8-10.
It won't mess up your OS and apps.
It has decent sigs.

It is weak in behavior blocking.
It is slow at certain tasks, and sometimes uses a lot of system resources compared to other AVs.

 

[Winter Soldier]

Windows Defender is good on Windows 8-10.
It won't mess up your OS and apps.
It has decent sigs.

It is weak in behavior blocking.
It is slow at certain tasks, and sometimes uses a lot of system resources compared to other AVs.

+1

 

[Ink]

Windows Defender on Windows 8 (Unsupported) is weak, no Network Inspection Service etc. Users running should be using Windows 10.

The latest version of Windows 10 has the best-to-date Windows Defender.

How stupid is a Windows 10 user?

 

[RoboMan]

How stupid is a Windows 10 user?

̶H̶o̶w̶ ̶s̶t̶u̶p̶i̶d̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶W̶i̶n̶d̶o̶w̶s̶ ̶1̶0̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶r̶?̶

How stupid is a user?*

Independently of the OS, even the version, they can always ##### it up, despite if they use Windows Defender, Kaspersky, Linux's ClamAV or if they use a NASA Protection Software.

I recommended Windows 10 to my friend after he asked for the most secure Windows version. Close to a month after that he got ransomware'd because he had SmartScreen Filter disabled and he avoided antivirus' alerts after he tried to run a crack for a game.

 

[shmu26]

̶H̶o̶w̶ ̶s̶t̶u̶p̶i̶d̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶W̶i̶n̶d̶o̶w̶s̶ ̶1̶0̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶r̶?̶

How stupid is a user?*

Independently of the OS, even the version, they can always *** it up, despite if they use Windows Defender, Kaspersky, Linux's ClamAV or if they use a NASA Protection Software.

I recommended Windows 10 to my friend after he asked for the most secure Windows version. Close to a month after that he got ransomware'd because he had SmartScreen Filter disabled and he avoided antivirus' alerts after he tried to run a crack for a game.

Great story.

 

[S3cur1ty 3nthu5145t]

Yes it is, i use it alongside Appguard, because i see no benefits of disabling it ; by the way , it detect and block Doublepulsar.

Same here.

You make a reasoning: a powerful commercial AV for example, can detect more malware, ok, but how can malware infect your PC?

This is the thing that seems hard for many to wrap their heads around, if you were to strip the other modules from 3rd party AV's out to the raw AV itself, there would be an even keel and none of them would handle zero-day efficiently, as they just can not push the signatures out fast enough. This said, running companion software with WD or any AV for that matter if the user is unwilling to use Local accounts/Smartscreen/UAC and safe surfing habits, is a another approach as the OP is intending.

I recommended Windows 10 to my friend after he asked for the most secure Windows version. Close to a month after that he got ransomware'd because he had SmartScreen Filter disabled and he avoided antivirus' alerts after he tried to run a crack for a game.

Excellent share, as i have stated many times, that it does not matter what you place on most average joe's systems, because if they want to run something being blocked by their security, they will do so by disabling it or ignoring prompts just as your friend did here.

 

[shmu26]

Same here.


This is the thing that seems hard for many to wrap their heads around, if you were to strip the other modules from 3rd party AV's out to the raw AV itself, there would be an even keel and none of them would handle zero-day efficiently, as they just can not push the signatures out fast enough. This said, running companion software with WD or any AV for that matter if the user is unwilling to use Local accounts/Smartscreen/UAC and safe surfing habits, is a another approach as the OP is intending.




Excellent share, as i have stated many times, that it does not matter what you place on most average joe's systems, because if they want to run something being blocked by their security, they will do so by disabling it or ignoring prompts just as your friend did here.

We all know that cracked software, keygens, etc, are a great way to get infected really quick.
But here's a stupid question, from someone who never downloads movies: what about pirated movies and music? Are they also among the main ways that PCs get infected?

 

[RoboMan]

We all know that cracked software, keygens, etc, are a great way to get infected really quick.
But here's a stupid question, from someone who never downloads movies: what about pirated movies and music? Are they also among the main ways that PCs get infected?

Online Pirated Streaming means hundreds of unwanted and potentially dangerous ads. There has been lots of articles on how scripts, even ransomware, were attached on this site's ads, and how they infected thousands until discovered, even without clicking on them. As well, torrenting/downloading this stuff from the internet means great risks. For example, lots of users do have the file extensions hidden, meaning this they may download a FastAndFurious7rip720p.exe.avi without even noticing. And well, those malware which are scripts and executables, when they actually show another thing through extensions changer. (can't remember that technique's name)

 

[S3cur1ty 3nthu5145t]

We all know that cracked software, keygens, etc, are a great way to get infected really quick.
But here's a stupid question, from someone who never downloads movies: what about pirated movies and music? Are they also among the main ways that PCs get infected?

I do not download these type of things either, but to simply answer your question, do you remember the music sharing site Limewire, it was a great place to pick up unwanted additions to your system, as I'm sure most of them are.

 

[Winter Soldier]

This is the thing that seems hard for many to wrap their heads around, if you were to strip the other modules from 3rd party AV's out to the raw AV itself, there would be an even keel and none of them would handle zero-day efficiently, as they just can not push the signatures out fast enough. This said, running companion software with WD or any AV for that matter if the user is unwilling to use Local accounts/Smartscreen/UAC and safe surfing habits, is a another approach as the OP is intending.

Very simply thing, when you are infected: 50% it is malcoder's fault and 50% it is your fault.

 

[McLovin]

I currently use Windows Defender on my Gaming OS (SSD). I feel like there should be enough protection to game. Most of my browsing is on my main OS.

 

[Arequire]

what about pirated movies and music? Are they also among the main ways that PCs get infected?

I'd imagine highly seeded torrents from trusted uploaders would usually be safe as if said uploaders bundled malware with their torrents they would quickly lose their trusted status and people would abandon their current uploads and any newly uploaded torrents would no longer be seeded. That's my logic anyway.
Still isn't worth the risk in my opinion; you're putting your trust in criminals at the end of the day.

do you remember the music sharing site Limewire, it was a great place to pick up unwanted additions to your system

Can confirm. Was infected multiple times via Limewire during my misspent youth.