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<blockquote data-quote="AtlBo" data-source="post: 811192" data-attributes="member: 32547"><p>[USER=72439]@Burrito[/USER]. First thought I had was Cylance and how will this compare. I haven't used Cylance enough to be able to say, but I kind of suspect that HP will approach this as if their reputation is at stake with AI. Basing this mostly on experience with HP support. The company is super proud of its client software support for Windows. Thinking of this and a partnership with Nvidia, I envisioned a substantial investment in engineering for the concept, so I was actually a little bit concerned about how Cylance might be able to respond.</p><p></p><p>I think most of the AI in security software is fairly meager at this point. I don't worry about this, since it's not very difficult to cover the bases with simpler and more reliable security practices. It's there and a nice bonus when it's good. With Cylance, it's more, but in a layered security setup, it could still be described as a bonus.</p><p></p><p>If HP and Nvidia come up with something concrete as in construction grade solid, this partnership should really imo cash in immediately by developing the platform for lease. I would be focusing on making sure the final product fit perfectly into this kind of model. However, if they jump into this and then release their concept before it's the "the real thing", that would be disastrous for them. No way should either of these companies even dream of entering into the security realm, no matter how much money they plan to spend. Nobody will support them if they do, and they will find out what it's like to be on the hook with this massive security burden and also on their own to explain why the software wasn't available to all computer owners from the start. This is the price for a hardware manufacturer planning to enter into the software world.</p><p></p><p>The reason I mention Intel is that Intel probably has the most to gain from deep exposure to AI security. The greatest benefit it seems to me comes in the form of positive kernel level policy...at SUPER deep levels. Overall, it would be good for us all if it were possible to believe that Intel really gets security. Not to pour on panic with Intel, yet the responses to Meltdown and Spectre point to the fact that Intel was unprepared for the inferno generated by the sudden release of the facts surrounding the vulnerabilities. Always had a high degree of respect for Intel and what they have been able to accomplish, but their response was pure bush league to me. I was shocked personally.</p><p></p><p>Part of me wonders if the breaking of MD/Spectre news was a response to attempts by Intel to bury the issue. It came across that way to a degree. And so Intel immediately runs to Microsoft? Microsoft created the "apologize with your hand out" formula for threatenting and embezzling computer owners. I believe in the ideal of Intel, but not the company that, during the aftermath of this episode, played the games of Zuckerberg and the rest of net nags, fanboys, and pity or pay clowns.</p><p></p><p>I support mainstream efforts to secure computing. Primping for attention has nothing to do with this. All three of the companies I mentioned need to get back into hardware and stay there, but, if the concept is good, I think it would be good for their engineers to be on the same page and equally enlightened. Actually, maybe we're really lucky in a way that HP announced the program. Could be the company is unsure of what exactly to do next, idk. Hope they look long enough to see how complicated what they are into REALLY is. HP, what will you do about keyloggers, file readers, information grabbing? What about all those command line options? Who will answer for the choices of your software? Who will decide when it's as developed as it can possibly be? LOL, the answers are in a bigger picture than HP and Nvidia are thinking...pretty sure about that. Personally, I'm wondering what will protect us from Microsoft <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite126" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL :ROFLMAO:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" />...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yoda says...hmmmmm <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite109" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> I hope the software contributes. Just think HP needs to be careful...not just entering the arena of computer security. Also, they should consider the heat generated by entering this arena with a proprietary software. Better to enter the engineering research realm with a well earned patent and the well wishes of computer owners and operators for a way to lease the technology...as long as it's good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AtlBo, post: 811192, member: 32547"] [USER=72439]@Burrito[/USER]. First thought I had was Cylance and how will this compare. I haven't used Cylance enough to be able to say, but I kind of suspect that HP will approach this as if their reputation is at stake with AI. Basing this mostly on experience with HP support. The company is super proud of its client software support for Windows. Thinking of this and a partnership with Nvidia, I envisioned a substantial investment in engineering for the concept, so I was actually a little bit concerned about how Cylance might be able to respond. I think most of the AI in security software is fairly meager at this point. I don't worry about this, since it's not very difficult to cover the bases with simpler and more reliable security practices. It's there and a nice bonus when it's good. With Cylance, it's more, but in a layered security setup, it could still be described as a bonus. If HP and Nvidia come up with something concrete as in construction grade solid, this partnership should really imo cash in immediately by developing the platform for lease. I would be focusing on making sure the final product fit perfectly into this kind of model. However, if they jump into this and then release their concept before it's the "the real thing", that would be disastrous for them. No way should either of these companies even dream of entering into the security realm, no matter how much money they plan to spend. Nobody will support them if they do, and they will find out what it's like to be on the hook with this massive security burden and also on their own to explain why the software wasn't available to all computer owners from the start. This is the price for a hardware manufacturer planning to enter into the software world. The reason I mention Intel is that Intel probably has the most to gain from deep exposure to AI security. The greatest benefit it seems to me comes in the form of positive kernel level policy...at SUPER deep levels. Overall, it would be good for us all if it were possible to believe that Intel really gets security. Not to pour on panic with Intel, yet the responses to Meltdown and Spectre point to the fact that Intel was unprepared for the inferno generated by the sudden release of the facts surrounding the vulnerabilities. Always had a high degree of respect for Intel and what they have been able to accomplish, but their response was pure bush league to me. I was shocked personally. Part of me wonders if the breaking of MD/Spectre news was a response to attempts by Intel to bury the issue. It came across that way to a degree. And so Intel immediately runs to Microsoft? Microsoft created the "apologize with your hand out" formula for threatenting and embezzling computer owners. I believe in the ideal of Intel, but not the company that, during the aftermath of this episode, played the games of Zuckerberg and the rest of net nags, fanboys, and pity or pay clowns. I support mainstream efforts to secure computing. Primping for attention has nothing to do with this. All three of the companies I mentioned need to get back into hardware and stay there, but, if the concept is good, I think it would be good for their engineers to be on the same page and equally enlightened. Actually, maybe we're really lucky in a way that HP announced the program. Could be the company is unsure of what exactly to do next, idk. Hope they look long enough to see how complicated what they are into REALLY is. HP, what will you do about keyloggers, file readers, information grabbing? What about all those command line options? Who will answer for the choices of your software? Who will decide when it's as developed as it can possibly be? LOL, the answers are in a bigger picture than HP and Nvidia are thinking...pretty sure about that. Personally, I'm wondering what will protect us from Microsoft :ROFLMAO:... Yoda says...hmmmmm :) I hope the software contributes. Just think HP needs to be careful...not just entering the arena of computer security. Also, they should consider the heat generated by entering this arena with a proprietary software. Better to enter the engineering research realm with a well earned patent and the well wishes of computer owners and operators for a way to lease the technology...as long as it's good. [/QUOTE]
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