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<blockquote data-quote="93803123" data-source="post: 838659">Microsoft doesn&#039;t work well with others. It is the one that makes things such that parties have to do what they got to do to make stuff work. In any case, it isn&#039;t as if 3rd party AVs are trashing Windows. Typically, it is Microsoft that is trashing the AVs.No. I don&#039;t trust Microsoft to protect a damn thing. Over the years it has proven that it cannot.Microsoft will never lock down anything. It caters to &quot;Users that want to use stuff.&quot; Apple at least got it mostly right - which is to strictly limit what users can do.You&#039;re quoting all &quot;users that want to use stuff&quot; problems. Those kinds of problems don&#039;t fly. At least not with me they don&#039;t. Because Microsoft itself has problems with games, FPs, browser issues, and so on. Microsoft is no better than anyone else. There is a lot of undocumented, unspoken shady stuff.No one is going to go out of business because of Windows 10 security anytime soon.In fact, it will be Windows (or Android) that will make the first billion dollar malware possible. Just like Ormandy and a whole slew of other industry leaders have called it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="93803123, post: 838659"] Microsoft doesn't work well with others. It is the one that makes things such that parties have to do what they got to do to make stuff work. In any case, it isn't as if 3rd party AVs are trashing Windows. Typically, it is Microsoft that is trashing the AVs. No. I don't trust Microsoft to protect a damn thing. Over the years it has proven that it cannot. Microsoft will never lock down anything. It caters to "Users that want to use stuff." Apple at least got it mostly right - which is to strictly limit what users can do. You're quoting all "users that want to use stuff" problems. Those kinds of problems don't fly. At least not with me they don't. Because Microsoft itself has problems with games, FPs, browser issues, and so on. Microsoft is no better than anyone else. There is a lot of undocumented, unspoken shady stuff. No one is going to go out of business because of Windows 10 security anytime soon. In fact, it will be Windows (or Android) that will make the first billion dollar malware possible. Just like Ormandy and a whole slew of other industry leaders have called it. [/QUOTE]

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