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<blockquote data-quote="cofer123" data-source="post: 1071935" data-attributes="member: 92976"><p>I also experienced Firewall issues a couple of years ago on one computer. One day, for no reason at all, that computer became unreachable (I only access it remotely) and all network functionality simply stopped. That was only fixable be running the Eset uninstaller tool in safe mode and then issuing a winsock reset.</p><p></p><p>I had my fair share of issues with Eset in the past 48 months. Something's changed recently and issues are getting more frequent. To name a few:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://malwaretips.com/threads/eset-update-breaking-performance-monitors.113561/" target="_blank">Broken performance counters</a> back in 2022-05 due to regular module updates; Had to dig an immediate fix until Eset issued a fix/repair;</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://forum.eset.com/topic/34441-green-border-around-browsers/" target="_blank">Browser protection "sandbox"</a> introduced in 2022-10 that sometimes resulted in garbled keyboard input in browsers. Eset insisted users with this problem used some sort of key-scrambling protection software, but that was not the case for me and many others. Only recently (past couple of months) it appears that they've finally fixed it;</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Firewall update introduced with version 16.2 back in 2023-07 was the most annoying of them all with several reported issues, some still present <a href="https://forum.eset.com/topic/37309-eset-internet-security-firewall-seriously-malfunctioning/#comment-170279" target="_blank">[1]</a><a href="https://forum.eset.com/topic/37215-esets-firewall-on-windows-version-1012046-blocks-network-connections-eg-dhcp-acquisition/#comment-171235" target="_blank">[2]</a><a href="https://forum.eset.com/topic/37313-eset-firewall-bug-while-using-lte-modem-internet/" target="_blank">[3]</a><a href="https://forum.eset.com/topic/37677-eset-blocking-local-network-computers/#comment-171758" target="_blank">[4]</a><a href="https://forum.eset.com/topic/37283-interactive-firewall-useless-since-162/" target="_blank">[5]</a>. I personally had several of the aforementioned issues, like local connections blocked, trusted network connections blocked, losing connectivity due to Firewall blocking of DHCP renewal, DNS blocking, etc. Some of these persisted for several weeks, some still occur today but, again, randomly and hard to diagnose;</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">SSL/TSL scanning sometimes breaks pages with Firefox (very random and very hard to pinpoint). I found only a couple of reports <a href="https://github.com/kucharzyk/spring-angular2-starter/issues/35" target="_blank">[1]</a><a href="https://forum.eset.com/topic/37891-gzip-decompression-not-working-correctly-on-web-content/" target="_blank">[2]</a> mentioning this so far;</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://forum.eset.com/topic/37283-interactive-firewall-useless-since-162/" target="_blank">Interactive Notifications </a>(especially for firewall) have never worked right for several years (I remember having issues as far back as 2014) and are still problematic to this day. The most often outcome is complete network loss since some notification gets stuck in the background new ones never get to show, blocking all network connections until a system restart. I gave up interactive firewall mode a decade ago because of this, and it's still happening.</li> </ul><p>Starting with version 16.2 is when Eset dropped the ball in my book. They've been releasing updates that appear to be untested and not even close to ready for the public. While I trust Eset's capability to offer protection, the main downside is that now I expect them to break something each time a new version comes out. And this is not machine-specific either, as I have had all of these issues I mentioned on multiple Win10/11 devices.</p><p></p><p>Since the XP days I've been using Eset and they often go like this, alternating between good and not so good phases. You have periods of very good quality followed by periods where you ask yourself why even bother. Seems to be a pattern they can't get rid of, which is a shame since they're my favorite security vendor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cofer123, post: 1071935, member: 92976"] I also experienced Firewall issues a couple of years ago on one computer. One day, for no reason at all, that computer became unreachable (I only access it remotely) and all network functionality simply stopped. That was only fixable be running the Eset uninstaller tool in safe mode and then issuing a winsock reset. I had my fair share of issues with Eset in the past 48 months. Something's changed recently and issues are getting more frequent. To name a few: [LIST] [*][URL='https://malwaretips.com/threads/eset-update-breaking-performance-monitors.113561/']Broken performance counters[/URL] back in 2022-05 due to regular module updates; Had to dig an immediate fix until Eset issued a fix/repair; [*][URL='https://forum.eset.com/topic/34441-green-border-around-browsers/']Browser protection "sandbox"[/URL] introduced in 2022-10 that sometimes resulted in garbled keyboard input in browsers. Eset insisted users with this problem used some sort of key-scrambling protection software, but that was not the case for me and many others. Only recently (past couple of months) it appears that they've finally fixed it; [*]Firewall update introduced with version 16.2 back in 2023-07 was the most annoying of them all with several reported issues, some still present [URL='https://forum.eset.com/topic/37309-eset-internet-security-firewall-seriously-malfunctioning/#comment-170279'][1][/URL][URL='https://forum.eset.com/topic/37215-esets-firewall-on-windows-version-1012046-blocks-network-connections-eg-dhcp-acquisition/#comment-171235'][2][/URL][URL='https://forum.eset.com/topic/37313-eset-firewall-bug-while-using-lte-modem-internet/'][3][/URL][URL='https://forum.eset.com/topic/37677-eset-blocking-local-network-computers/#comment-171758'][4][/URL][URL='https://forum.eset.com/topic/37283-interactive-firewall-useless-since-162/'][5][/URL]. I personally had several of the aforementioned issues, like local connections blocked, trusted network connections blocked, losing connectivity due to Firewall blocking of DHCP renewal, DNS blocking, etc. Some of these persisted for several weeks, some still occur today but, again, randomly and hard to diagnose; [*]SSL/TSL scanning sometimes breaks pages with Firefox (very random and very hard to pinpoint). I found only a couple of reports [URL='https://github.com/kucharzyk/spring-angular2-starter/issues/35'][1][/URL][URL='https://forum.eset.com/topic/37891-gzip-decompression-not-working-correctly-on-web-content/'][2][/URL] mentioning this so far; [*][URL='https://forum.eset.com/topic/37283-interactive-firewall-useless-since-162/']Interactive Notifications [/URL](especially for firewall) have never worked right for several years (I remember having issues as far back as 2014) and are still problematic to this day. The most often outcome is complete network loss since some notification gets stuck in the background new ones never get to show, blocking all network connections until a system restart. I gave up interactive firewall mode a decade ago because of this, and it's still happening. [/LIST] Starting with version 16.2 is when Eset dropped the ball in my book. They've been releasing updates that appear to be untested and not even close to ready for the public. While I trust Eset's capability to offer protection, the main downside is that now I expect them to break something each time a new version comes out. And this is not machine-specific either, as I have had all of these issues I mentioned on multiple Win10/11 devices. Since the XP days I've been using Eset and they often go like this, alternating between good and not so good phases. You have periods of very good quality followed by periods where you ask yourself why even bother. Seems to be a pattern they can't get rid of, which is a shame since they're my favorite security vendor. [/QUOTE]
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