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<blockquote data-quote="Digerati" data-source="post: 696778" data-attributes="member: 59833"><p>I did not say it causes issues. I said, Please don't attempt to justify your position by twisting my words.</p><p></p><p>As you said, you are kind of a noob. Therefore, your limited experience (and we were all noobs once, so not a criticism) with a limited amount of hardware does not qualify you to say replacing TIM "never" causes issues. Especially after you, yourself, noted you had overheating issues after you replaced your TIM.</p><p></p><p>You can check the link in my profile to see if I might have some qualifying hardware support experience.</p><p></p><p>This is very true! But the last thing PC makers want is to sell users computers that overheat, become unstable and crash. Users don't like that! While some PC makers may not provide superior cooling, they do provide adequate cooling for the vast majority of users performing normal tasks (including gaming - benchmarking is not "normal").</p><p></p><p>But more importantly, CPU and GPU makers (and graphics card makers) sure don't want their products to be unstable due to inadequate transfer of heat between the processor dies and the included OEM heatsinks. So the Intel, NVIDIA and AMD provided TIM is not your basic silicon grease, but rather very good TIM. And as noted above, none of those manufacturers say you need to regularly replace the TIM.</p><p></p><p>I also note no aftermarket heatsink maker claims their included TIM needs to be regularly replaced either.</p><p></p><p>So again, if the cured bond has been broken, replace the TIM. Never ever reuse old TIM. If the bond is still intact and you <u>need</u> the extra few degrees a fresh application of TIM might provide, you have other issues that need to be addressed first - like cleaning out heat trapping dust, or upgrading/repairing case cooling.</p><p>I disagree with that completely! Why intentionally degrade performance if something else is the cause of problems? The only time we do that here is for HTPCs (home theater PCs) where total silent running is desired by the client.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Digerati, post: 696778, member: 59833"] I did not say it causes issues. I said, Please don't attempt to justify your position by twisting my words. As you said, you are kind of a noob. Therefore, your limited experience (and we were all noobs once, so not a criticism) with a limited amount of hardware does not qualify you to say replacing TIM "never" causes issues. Especially after you, yourself, noted you had overheating issues after you replaced your TIM. You can check the link in my profile to see if I might have some qualifying hardware support experience. This is very true! But the last thing PC makers want is to sell users computers that overheat, become unstable and crash. Users don't like that! While some PC makers may not provide superior cooling, they do provide adequate cooling for the vast majority of users performing normal tasks (including gaming - benchmarking is not "normal"). But more importantly, CPU and GPU makers (and graphics card makers) sure don't want their products to be unstable due to inadequate transfer of heat between the processor dies and the included OEM heatsinks. So the Intel, NVIDIA and AMD provided TIM is not your basic silicon grease, but rather very good TIM. And as noted above, none of those manufacturers say you need to regularly replace the TIM. I also note no aftermarket heatsink maker claims their included TIM needs to be regularly replaced either. So again, if the cured bond has been broken, replace the TIM. Never ever reuse old TIM. If the bond is still intact and you [U]need[/U] the extra few degrees a fresh application of TIM might provide, you have other issues that need to be addressed first - like cleaning out heat trapping dust, or upgrading/repairing case cooling. I disagree with that completely! Why intentionally degrade performance if something else is the cause of problems? The only time we do that here is for HTPCs (home theater PCs) where total silent running is desired by the client. [/QUOTE]
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