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<blockquote data-quote="bobrob" data-source="post: 971962" data-attributes="member: 93906"><p>I just want to clarify that there are two independent concerns with MacOS Big Sur and up and M1 macs:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>Apple Silicon Binaries (vs Intel) </strong>- Some Anti-Virus have Apple Silicon binaries, and some do not. Some have a few components of both. F-Secure states that some of their modules directly support Apple Silicon and some do not. In my own experience F-Secure still relies on Rosetta on an M1 Mac, even though some of their modules do support Apple Silicon already. Kaspersky (in my experience) completely supports Apple Silicon on M1 Mac. You can tell if a binary supports Apple Silicon by viewing the Activity Monitor in MacOS on an M1 mac.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>Support of the Apple EndpointSecuity API (vs. Kernel Extension)</strong> - Starting in Big Sur Apple started to depreciate Kernel Extensions and added new Security around them, which requires the user to manually approve each one before they are executed. In my experience, only F-Secure SAFE supports Apple's preferred EndPointSecurity API currently. Kaspersky, and Norton still require a MacOS Kernel Extension to run. Because F-Secure doesn't use an extension, the only Security popup which needs to be approved during install is the one to allow Full Disk access.</li> </ol><p>You're correct about MacOS AV being less sophisticated than Windows AVs. This is driven by the much smaller market for AV on Macs. If there were more users and interest in MacOS based AV, I think vendors would provide some of the cool Sandboxing, HIPS and other stuff AV enjoys on Windows. However with it's read-only system volume and other built in protections, perhaps Macs are secure enough without them. </p><p></p><p>I will point out that Kaspersky on Mac does utilize their security cloud, and has Network traffic inspection, and Network Intrusion prevention. F-Secure on Mac includes their Cloud Security, and has some Behavior Based blockers via their rules-based and user-configurable "DeepGuard" implementation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bobrob, post: 971962, member: 93906"] I just want to clarify that there are two independent concerns with MacOS Big Sur and up and M1 macs: [LIST=1] [*][B]Apple Silicon Binaries (vs Intel) [/B]- Some Anti-Virus have Apple Silicon binaries, and some do not. Some have a few components of both. F-Secure states that some of their modules directly support Apple Silicon and some do not. In my own experience F-Secure still relies on Rosetta on an M1 Mac, even though some of their modules do support Apple Silicon already. Kaspersky (in my experience) completely supports Apple Silicon on M1 Mac. You can tell if a binary supports Apple Silicon by viewing the Activity Monitor in MacOS on an M1 mac. [*][B]Support of the Apple EndpointSecuity API (vs. Kernel Extension)[/B] - Starting in Big Sur Apple started to depreciate Kernel Extensions and added new Security around them, which requires the user to manually approve each one before they are executed. In my experience, only F-Secure SAFE supports Apple's preferred EndPointSecurity API currently. Kaspersky, and Norton still require a MacOS Kernel Extension to run. Because F-Secure doesn't use an extension, the only Security popup which needs to be approved during install is the one to allow Full Disk access. [/LIST] You're correct about MacOS AV being less sophisticated than Windows AVs. This is driven by the much smaller market for AV on Macs. If there were more users and interest in MacOS based AV, I think vendors would provide some of the cool Sandboxing, HIPS and other stuff AV enjoys on Windows. However with it's read-only system volume and other built in protections, perhaps Macs are secure enough without them. I will point out that Kaspersky on Mac does utilize their security cloud, and has Network traffic inspection, and Network Intrusion prevention. F-Secure on Mac includes their Cloud Security, and has some Behavior Based blockers via their rules-based and user-configurable "DeepGuard" implementation. [/QUOTE]
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