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<blockquote data-quote="ForgottenSeer 58943" data-source="post: 699892">Windows is difficult to secure and highly vulnerable for the average user. I will go so far as to say the average joe running Windows is &#039;reckless&#039; in the modern age. I have NOT in the last 12-18 months touched an &#039;average joe&#039; PC that wasn&#039;t compromised. Period. I&#039;m speaking outside of an enterprise environment of course. But the biggest problem we are seeing is BYOD.. We can secure an &#039;average job&#039; behind our network security protocols, AD, Radius A, UTM and toss an enterprise AV on and they are fairly safe. But what we see now more than ever is they take that device home, plug it into their Netgear router and start surfing and downloading stuff and they bring it back to the enterprise environment after a weekend of that and it is infected/hijacked/compromised. We&#039;ve seen this THOUSANDS of times in the last 12-18 months.&nbsp;It&#039;s really the worst possible choice for average folks who would be better served by a different OS. Linux isn&#039;t much better because it often requires command line operations, has some major hardware incompatibilities and can present other challenges. That pretty much leaves ChromeOS (with it&#039;s other issues, like privacy which really are no different than Microsoft) for your average Joe. The state of affairs is pathetic right now. BIG TIME. We need more players in the OS marketplace. We need more fire and forget solutions for the average Joe.Microsoft is and continues to be epic fail in providing anything remotely resembling a secure OS. It&#039;s their fault. Their lust for incessant telemetry, over the top logging, and the large bureaucracy of their development all contribute to it. But if I was a conspiracy nut I would say it all almost appears too convenient, like they are serving up a compromised OS at the behest of US Intelligence to simply get the world to run compromised OS. Suppressing any hope of a viable, secure alternative for the most part. Personally - I think their code is such a mess they are lost in space with it. Their development system is so flawed they don&#039;t even&nbsp; know how to fix it. The right hand doesn&#039;t know what the left is doing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ForgottenSeer 58943, post: 699892"] Windows is difficult to secure and highly vulnerable for the average user. I will go so far as to say the average joe running Windows is 'reckless' in the modern age. I have NOT in the last 12-18 months touched an 'average joe' PC that wasn't compromised. Period. I'm speaking outside of an enterprise environment of course. But the biggest problem we are seeing is BYOD.. We can secure an 'average job' behind our network security protocols, AD, Radius A, UTM and toss an enterprise AV on and they are fairly safe. But what we see now more than ever is they take that device home, plug it into their Netgear router and start surfing and downloading stuff and they bring it back to the enterprise environment after a weekend of that and it is infected/hijacked/compromised. We've seen this THOUSANDS of times in the last 12-18 months. It's really the worst possible choice for average folks who would be better served by a different OS. Linux isn't much better because it often requires command line operations, has some major hardware incompatibilities and can present other challenges. That pretty much leaves ChromeOS (with it's other issues, like privacy which really are no different than Microsoft) for your average Joe. The state of affairs is pathetic right now. BIG TIME. We need more players in the OS marketplace. We need more fire and forget solutions for the average Joe. Microsoft is and continues to be epic fail in providing anything remotely resembling a secure OS. It's their fault. Their lust for incessant telemetry, over the top logging, and the large bureaucracy of their development all contribute to it. But if I was a conspiracy nut I would say it all almost appears too convenient, like they are serving up a compromised OS at the behest of US Intelligence to simply get the world to run compromised OS. Suppressing any hope of a viable, secure alternative for the most part. Personally - I think their code is such a mess they are lost in space with it. Their development system is so flawed they don't even know how to fix it. The right hand doesn't know what the left is doing. [/QUOTE]

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