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Privacy: "I have nothing to hide?" Argument (What's your say?)
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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 65228" data-source="post: 713962"><p>I don't have have anything to hide but that doesn't mean I want some random individual snooping through my things. Having nothing to hide and having sensitive and personal data are two completely different things.</p><p></p><p>The problem is if someone can access all of my data for "national security", what about the next individual who can access my data for the same purpose but has misinformed/unknown secondary intentions? Rogue employee's exist in every business, the government is no exception to it.</p><p></p><p><strong>If someone has access to all your personal data:</strong></p><p>1. They can threaten you</p><p>2. They can frame you</p><p></p><p>This isn't about data which can harm your reputation because you did something you shouldn't have. This is about general, personal and sensitive information. Would you want someone to start handing out personal photo's? Personal chat-logs about a business plan? No.</p><p></p><p>Things happen all the time. One day you could wake up and do something that causes huge change/exposure, and someone with authority might dislike it, and then start messing with you by using their clearance level as leverage to gain data they should not have really been able to have access to prior to written explicit consent.</p><p></p><p>The other issue is malicious attackers. If there's a master decryption key to encrypted data or a whole file on someone with loads of sensitive and personal information for usage by good people, it means it's technically accessible by bad people as well. Which goes back to my first point regarding rogue employees.</p><p></p><p>The truth is that police/government agencies do need data to do their job properly and it really isn't a myth. How are they supposed to stop sophisticated attacks with no preparation? They get hits off specific keywords being put into search engines, text messages, online posts... It will never be full-proof and they cannot prevent everything but it will definitely help. The problem at the same time is that the data they collect is not used to it's full potential, and it can be a bit "over the top" for civilians they already know are safe and not up to anything dangerous which could affect many people.</p><p></p><p>I think that new guidelines should come into place which follows a correct and safe procedure. What those guidelines should be I am not the one to ask. However, it should allow removal of data securely after X amount of days and collection of data which is mandatory, not random things which are personal/sensitive and would be meaningless for an actual investigation and/or stopping a dangerous scenario in real-life.</p><p></p><p>For example, did anyone here about the case against Facebook where they failed to notify authorities after someone posted on Facebook they were going to shoot someone? Facebook collect heaps amounts of data, they should have caught something like this. Especially after it was constantly reported to Facebook but it was still not reported to the authorities. This is an example of misuse of data... It isn't used to it's full potential to do good, but more about money.</p><p></p><p>I agree that government agencies/police or those in charge can use data to help us, but I feel that it should be better and as least-intrusive as possible for them to still do their job. And that data should be deleted after a certain period. For example, if I type into Google "How to make a bacon sandwich", will this be shoved onto a profile about me to indicate I am learning to cook bacon and make a sandwich with it?</p><p></p><p>Master decryption keys here and there coming from places where the sun doesn't shine will do nothing but make our data vulnerable to bad people.</p><p></p><p>In 10 years time we will still be discussing this the same as we are now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 65228, post: 713962"] I don't have have anything to hide but that doesn't mean I want some random individual snooping through my things. Having nothing to hide and having sensitive and personal data are two completely different things. The problem is if someone can access all of my data for "national security", what about the next individual who can access my data for the same purpose but has misinformed/unknown secondary intentions? Rogue employee's exist in every business, the government is no exception to it. [B]If someone has access to all your personal data:[/B] 1. They can threaten you 2. They can frame you This isn't about data which can harm your reputation because you did something you shouldn't have. This is about general, personal and sensitive information. Would you want someone to start handing out personal photo's? Personal chat-logs about a business plan? No. Things happen all the time. One day you could wake up and do something that causes huge change/exposure, and someone with authority might dislike it, and then start messing with you by using their clearance level as leverage to gain data they should not have really been able to have access to prior to written explicit consent. The other issue is malicious attackers. If there's a master decryption key to encrypted data or a whole file on someone with loads of sensitive and personal information for usage by good people, it means it's technically accessible by bad people as well. Which goes back to my first point regarding rogue employees. The truth is that police/government agencies do need data to do their job properly and it really isn't a myth. How are they supposed to stop sophisticated attacks with no preparation? They get hits off specific keywords being put into search engines, text messages, online posts... It will never be full-proof and they cannot prevent everything but it will definitely help. The problem at the same time is that the data they collect is not used to it's full potential, and it can be a bit "over the top" for civilians they already know are safe and not up to anything dangerous which could affect many people. I think that new guidelines should come into place which follows a correct and safe procedure. What those guidelines should be I am not the one to ask. However, it should allow removal of data securely after X amount of days and collection of data which is mandatory, not random things which are personal/sensitive and would be meaningless for an actual investigation and/or stopping a dangerous scenario in real-life. For example, did anyone here about the case against Facebook where they failed to notify authorities after someone posted on Facebook they were going to shoot someone? Facebook collect heaps amounts of data, they should have caught something like this. Especially after it was constantly reported to Facebook but it was still not reported to the authorities. This is an example of misuse of data... It isn't used to it's full potential to do good, but more about money. I agree that government agencies/police or those in charge can use data to help us, but I feel that it should be better and as least-intrusive as possible for them to still do their job. And that data should be deleted after a certain period. For example, if I type into Google "How to make a bacon sandwich", will this be shoved onto a profile about me to indicate I am learning to cook bacon and make a sandwich with it? Master decryption keys here and there coming from places where the sun doesn't shine will do nothing but make our data vulnerable to bad people. In 10 years time we will still be discussing this the same as we are now. [/QUOTE]
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