Remaking America

Gnosis

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Apr 26, 2011
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National healthcare is nothing more than the 21st century version of Marx’s “dictatorship of the proletariat”. What is an even better way to control the people of a nation by blackmailing the working class with vassage? I know, blackmail them with a form of potential that rots as destitution pertaining to their healthcare.

The “proletariat” is simply defined as the working class as it pertains to vassage. Vassage was the medieval economic political system that involved government hand outs such as land, gold, or other valuables in exchange for services performed for the hierarchy in power at the time, i.e. the State. With these two definitions in mind, as they are the core of the “Communist Manifesto”, please hold the following documented statement by Thomas Jefferson close to your heart: “Government can only do something for the people only as it can do something to the people.”

Karl Heinrich Marx once wrote “The theory of communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.” When we read that statement we think about land or guns which help protect our freedoms. Now think about the HUMAN BODY and how personal and private that property is. It is crucial that any form of government not be allowed to use our bodies against us as the communists have done with the backbone of economies known as “labor”.

If a bureaucrat was empowered by the federal government to dictate healthcare eligibility, how far would you go to attempt to ensure coverage? What if you did everything in your power to comply with mandates issued by bureaucratic nobles and feudal overlords (Tzars), including illegal acts and(or) allowing your wife to engage in intimate acts with them, but they still would not change status? Their decision was final. No one in your family qualifies for benefits because you are liberals ,and as such, a threat to the Theocracy. You then lose your wife, not as a result of illness related death, but to one of the feminist nobles (gay marriage is part of “universal coverage”). Now your ex-wife will get the medical care that she is entitled to.

You are powerless. You are reflecting upon these thoughts while working in one of the many bond-servant sectors that are supervised by the Chinese military. The United American Socialist Theocratic Republics have gone so far into debt that they deliver up anyone who is unemployed to the quasi capitalist chicoms. Muslims live in your house. The feminazi that took your wife invokes the abortion “benefit” to kill your infant.

Unfortunately, this is how the rest of your life plays out. You are one of tens of millions in this same predicament within the North American Union. There is no hope for you. The Bolsheviks will not help you and the Mensheviks have all been slaughtered. Sharia law is the law of the land. There is no god except the State.


ZOU
 

Gnosis

Level 5
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Apr 26, 2011
2,779
I might be away for a while today. I am going to AlObama in my Obamacar. I first need to go to the Obama-mart to put some Obama-octane in my Obama-car. I will be wearing my Obama-belt the entire trip. I have already let by Obama-employer and Obama-landlord know. I must make certain that all of my Obama-utilities are paid so I have Obama-net, Obama-water and Obama-lights when I return to Obama-ville. I am currently using Obama-wireless, where the download speeds are 6000 mega-Obama-bytes per second. Now, what in the Obama did I do with my Obama-keys??
I also installed Obama-panels on my roof so I can have the power of Obama to run some of my Obama-accessories (all my Al Gore solar panels and light bulbs are inferior now thanks to Obama). I used Obama-contractors, of course.
My Obama-foundation is cracked on my Obama-house. George W. Bush did it. George is really making it tough on me these days. I know not what I would do if I did not have Obama.
 
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i dont know all details of the US healthcare plans but here in France, jobless or very poor people get 100% free healtcare (hospital, medecine, doctors consultations, medical devices, etc...) unlike working people that have just 65%.

The system is maintained via various taxes taken from workers & companies.

For French, trying to change it, (as Sarkozy lighty thought to propose to save some funds) is considered as an "heresy"
 

MrXidus

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Apr 17, 2011
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Looks like you've been in your parents liquor cabinet yourself ZOU. Would have appreciated a TL;DR, Ha.
 

Ramblin

Level 3
May 14, 2011
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ZOU1 said:
I might be away for a while today. I am going to AlObama in my Obamacar.

Nice people in Bama, enjoy your trip, have some black eyes peas with fried chicken or roast beef in my name, alright.

You know Zou, I don't care much about Mr Obama or his friends but one thing is certain. When the man had to make the decision to get Bin Laden, he did not hesitate or ponder about it like Clinton and others did. All and all, he deserves credit for that.

A few days ago, I had a guy here from Sinking Springs, Penn, he pretty much feels about Obama like you do and thinks hes going to change or attempt to change the country. His wife, feels like me and disagrees though.

Bo
 

Ramblin

Level 3
May 14, 2011
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Umbra Corp. said:
Anyway , in USA, lobbies rules not government
What about France....Who rules France? I know who rules France, Nazis and sons of Nazis and collaborationists rule France.

Oh and ah Vietnam...Who rules Vietnam? The communist party, that's it.

Bo
 
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don't tell me that lobbies, (oil, guns, tobacco, etc...) has no influences on US (or any other countries, i said US to stay on the topic ) political decisions.

believing that the citizens wishes are followed by their gov. is in my opinion, naive.


for your info, i dont care at all about any gov. (i dont even vote, since any political party throw on you nice promises never followed) so it is useless to point the countries i am from , its childish, i prefer you gave real facts or your opinions.

Thanks.
 

Ramblin

Level 3
May 14, 2011
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Lobbying is legal, transparent and is how in democratic countries groups of interest try to influence politicians to do what they want. Umbra, there is nothing wrong with it, that's how things work in countries that are democratic.

Bo
 
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i have done some edits.

I know that lobbies are legal in US (im not sure for France) but they should not have any influences on political decisions but just giving opinions.

Corruption comes from lobbies.

Irak War = G. Bush = greedy oil lobbies... result: wasted lives of american soldiers and innocent irakians...
 

Ramblin

Level 3
May 14, 2011
1,014
Umbra Corp. said:
......they should not have any influences on political decisions but just giving opinions.

Corruption comes from lobbies.
Influencing governments, politicians it is the reason for lobbying to exist.

They are allowed to exist in democratic countries unlike where the only one that influences government is the party that controls the country, like in the very few remaining nations that are still imprisoned by communism. In some ways lobbying is allowed to fight corruption. It is controlled by government. You have more corruption in countries like China, for example, than in democratic countries. Look at the Chinese politburo guys that are retiring this week. They all are going out with a billion or two. Now, that is corruption.

Take care Umbra

Bo
 
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the most powerful lobbies invest a lot of money on political figures to get some advantages in return, advantages that not forcibly benefit the average citizen but the individuals/companies behind those lobbies.

for corruption i agree with you, it is human nature, people need and want money to get some form of power and ease in life, when they have power they use it to get more money so they may gain more power, etc...

take care you too ;)

offtopic: i wait impatiently Zou replies ^^
 

Gnosis

Level 5
Thread author
Apr 26, 2011
2,779
For French, trying to change it, (as Sarkozy lighty thought to propose to save some funds) is considered as an "heresy"

Indeed. Gov. healthcare and carbon credits (climate change) are new religions ripe to headline for theocracy and its monarch.
 

Gnosis

Level 5
Thread author
Apr 26, 2011
2,779
You know Zou, I don't care much about Mr Obama or his friends but one thing is certain. When the man had to make the decision to get Bin Laden, he did not hesitate or ponder about it like Clinton and others did. All and all, he deserves credit for that.

I agree to a very slim extent. While it is true Obama gave the order, special ops did it and the "evil" G.W. Bush put us in a position to be able to do it, not Obama.

Nice people in Bama

Absolutely. I have enjoyed my times down there. It is one of the only places I have been when I was young where the girlfriends of friends were not jealous that I was taking there men away to go out and have fun. They were really cool like that. They treated me like I was there brother, not a friend of their boyfriend that was a threat, or something. Now Tennessee.......whole other story. lol
 

Gnosis

Level 5
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Apr 26, 2011
2,779
Influencing governments, politicians it is the reason for lobbying to exist.

Over here it is supposed to be "checks and balances". Obama comes along after 200+ years and decides he will bypass congress with more Exectutive orders than ALL PRESIDENTS COMBINED (including Civil War, WWI and WWII Presidents). He spits on the Constitution and he has no love for the Republic, only the puppet democracy that is easily overthrown with his flatteries. He will resemble Antiochus IV before it is all over, less the erection of Zeus and blood of swine on the alter. But he will claim to be God. I am quite certain of that.

He is so in love with himself he cannot stand it. He seems to think that the House of Representatives and Senate are a parliamentary advisory council at most. No President has ever spit on the Constitution like this. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Now that he is gambling with house money, it gets much worse. Furthermore, he has his puppets on the Supreme Court that rule by feelings and personal opinions, not the rule of law and the Constitution. After one more appointment our Supreme Court will be more corrupt than Sharia Law tainted courts in Britain are.

My beef is not about politics or difference in opinion, it is about the foundation of the greatest nation in history being threatened by an unruly brat that never grew up and wants to "Remake" America. Well, piss on that. We have come to far, and Barry is not even close to half the man that Jefferson, etc. was. If Truman or Kennedy were still living they would know exactly what I am talking about and put him in his place. They would be attacking him more than ANY Republicrat or Demican ever dreamed of criticizing him.
 

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