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<blockquote data-quote="mazskolnieces" data-source="post: 915271" data-attributes="member: 88422"><p>And so ? It is easy enough to turn off a boolean like a light switch to gain access to the control panel. So your claim is trivial and at best a minor inconvenience. Windows control panel is not a vital system component as there is nothing that happens during the regular course of using the OS that it needs access to it. Nobody needs constant unfettered access to the Control Panel. And besides, enterprises sure don't care.</p><p></p><p>I wonder why people who disable the entire LOLBin list in Hard_Configurator never complain about it ? Seems like they all can make it work without issue.</p><p></p><p>You know it's pretty disturbing, and quite sad actually, that a developer of a security product doesn't even know what Microsoft's own recommended security best practices are. That he doesn't even know what Microsoft MSPs and Microsoft security personnel do to secure a 100,000+ endpoint deployment. You don't even know how any of Microsoft's enterprise security works, like the things needed to create, install and manage the policies. A Windows security expert with real world experience wouldn't ask for web pages as evidence because they wouldn't need it. You're doing it just because your objective is to say "If you don't provide what I'm asking for, then it's just not true." How petty and unprofessional is that ?</p><p></p><p>Ask the WDAC team what it is... it's SRP. It always was. The fact that it uses a kernel mode driver as opposed to working in user mode doesn't make WDAC something other than SRP.</p><p></p><p>Enterprises and those people who so choose will continue to use SRP on Windows until such time in the distant future most everybody switches to Windows 10 and Server 2016 and above.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not sure why you feel the need to talk about your product in this thread since it is not relevant to the discussion of SRP. It's just an antiexecutable.</p><p></p><p>You say Andy's "product" is only for security geeks but that is a wild claim and there is no evidence you provide to support it. You act like people cannot handle a product that is basically an ON-OFF product like a light switch. Please show us a single instance where a H_C user couldn't figure out how to use the product or a bug that persisted to the extent that the user abandoned the product.</p><p></p><p>I think you have a penchant for overexaggerating the VS user base and how wonderful it is doing. If your product was doing so great, then you wouldn't spend all your time on tiny forums for security software enthusiasts. Don't get me wrong, it's nice that you do. There's certainly a lot of people on these forums that appreciate their free VS licenses. But my guess is that as soon as you stopped giving away free licenses lots of your user base would lose interest. Who knows. Maybe I'm wrong. But one thing for certain is that these small forums are most definitely places where people come to because they're attracted to the free software.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You have the option of proving every last word that I've posted is wrong. There's nothing stopping you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mazskolnieces, post: 915271, member: 88422"] And so ? It is easy enough to turn off a boolean like a light switch to gain access to the control panel. So your claim is trivial and at best a minor inconvenience. Windows control panel is not a vital system component as there is nothing that happens during the regular course of using the OS that it needs access to it. Nobody needs constant unfettered access to the Control Panel. And besides, enterprises sure don't care. I wonder why people who disable the entire LOLBin list in Hard_Configurator never complain about it ? Seems like they all can make it work without issue. You know it's pretty disturbing, and quite sad actually, that a developer of a security product doesn't even know what Microsoft's own recommended security best practices are. That he doesn't even know what Microsoft MSPs and Microsoft security personnel do to secure a 100,000+ endpoint deployment. You don't even know how any of Microsoft's enterprise security works, like the things needed to create, install and manage the policies. A Windows security expert with real world experience wouldn't ask for web pages as evidence because they wouldn't need it. You're doing it just because your objective is to say "If you don't provide what I'm asking for, then it's just not true." How petty and unprofessional is that ? Ask the WDAC team what it is... it's SRP. It always was. The fact that it uses a kernel mode driver as opposed to working in user mode doesn't make WDAC something other than SRP. Enterprises and those people who so choose will continue to use SRP on Windows until such time in the distant future most everybody switches to Windows 10 and Server 2016 and above. Not sure why you feel the need to talk about your product in this thread since it is not relevant to the discussion of SRP. It's just an antiexecutable. You say Andy's "product" is only for security geeks but that is a wild claim and there is no evidence you provide to support it. You act like people cannot handle a product that is basically an ON-OFF product like a light switch. Please show us a single instance where a H_C user couldn't figure out how to use the product or a bug that persisted to the extent that the user abandoned the product. I think you have a penchant for overexaggerating the VS user base and how wonderful it is doing. If your product was doing so great, then you wouldn't spend all your time on tiny forums for security software enthusiasts. Don't get me wrong, it's nice that you do. There's certainly a lot of people on these forums that appreciate their free VS licenses. But my guess is that as soon as you stopped giving away free licenses lots of your user base would lose interest. Who knows. Maybe I'm wrong. But one thing for certain is that these small forums are most definitely places where people come to because they're attracted to the free software. You have the option of proving every last word that I've posted is wrong. There's nothing stopping you. [/QUOTE]
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