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<blockquote data-quote="ForgottenSeer 58943" data-source="post: 704939">You clearly don&#039;t understand anything about Meltdown and Spectre, do you? VM&#039;s aren&#039;t the least of the worries, and yes, the average user could quite easily be impacted by it because it&#039;s a kernal/user space issue that impacts the privacy and security of an entire system.It&#039;s also crucial to not take what charlatans say to heart. Some people are those &#039;old guy&#039; IT dudes, they think nothing evolves and their old tactics are still valid today. They run around fixing PC&#039;s for grandparents and get worshipped by average Joes that know &#039;just a bit less&#039; than they do but seem like geniuses. We run into these guys a lot, they are annoying, they cause more harm than good. They&#039;re a dying breed that has no business in IT.Actually, they aren&#039;t. A huge percentage of Chromebooks don&#039;t even use Intel but the list of vulnerable CB&#039;s is very very tiny because Linux already patched their Kernal and some of the popular CB chipsets were never vulnerable. It would be pretty rare for anyone to have a vulnerable CB right now. Also, Intel isn&#039;t a big player in CB market because it&#039;s well understood that Intel suffers when running Android Apps, while other chipsets are much speedier.Haven&#039;t played with a Chromebook I see... I won&#039;t even bother to address this individually other than to say it&#039;s mostly hogwash.Again, no experience with a Chromebook I see.. For one, Chromebook has extremely limited telemetry and virtually no logging if you select the checkbox and uncheck &#039;Help Google with this OS&#039; when you first run it or after each powerwash.&nbsp; I know, I spent several days collecting outbound activity from a brand new CB into a SIEM. It&#039;s a very very quiet OS. That quietness itself helps reduce the threat surface of it. I don&#039;t even need to address Windows Telemetry, Logging, Keylogging, Spying, that&#039;s why there are 30 tools and batch files out there to &#039;try&#039; and address that...Actually, storing in the cloud is optional. No experience with CB&#039;s I see? Each file/folder has the option to store locally and/or in the cloud.&nbsp; Your choice.The reason some of the best and brightest recommend Chromebooks are because of very valid reasons relating to threat surface, attack vectors and vulnerabilities. There is no expert in the world that disputes that fact - none.&nbsp; Since Chromebooks are a distributed opensource OS nobody profits by recommending it. It&#039;s nothing knew that Windows is the most insecure OS in the world, that&#039;s old news. It&#039;s also the only OS in the world that needs security products like antivirus software. This is for a reason, it&#039;s largely a spaghetti code kludge OS designed with security as an afterthought.Bill, please don&#039;t take all of this personally, we&#039;re just dealing with facts here. You are Bill Bright from Wilders right? The legendary troll?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ForgottenSeer 58943, post: 704939"] You clearly don't understand anything about Meltdown and Spectre, do you? VM's aren't the least of the worries, and yes, the average user could quite easily be impacted by it because it's a kernal/user space issue that impacts the privacy and security of an entire system. It's also crucial to not take what charlatans say to heart. Some people are those 'old guy' IT dudes, they think nothing evolves and their old tactics are still valid today. They run around fixing PC's for grandparents and get worshipped by average Joes that know 'just a bit less' than they do but seem like geniuses. We run into these guys a lot, they are annoying, they cause more harm than good. They're a dying breed that has no business in IT. Actually, they aren't. A huge percentage of Chromebooks don't even use Intel but the list of vulnerable CB's is very very tiny because Linux already patched their Kernal and some of the popular CB chipsets were never vulnerable. It would be pretty rare for anyone to have a vulnerable CB right now. Also, Intel isn't a big player in CB market because it's well understood that Intel suffers when running Android Apps, while other chipsets are much speedier. Haven't played with a Chromebook I see... I won't even bother to address this individually other than to say it's mostly hogwash. Again, no experience with a Chromebook I see.. For one, Chromebook has extremely limited telemetry and virtually no logging if you select the checkbox and uncheck 'Help Google with this OS' when you first run it or after each powerwash. I know, I spent several days collecting outbound activity from a brand new CB into a SIEM. It's a very very quiet OS. That quietness itself helps reduce the threat surface of it. I don't even need to address Windows Telemetry, Logging, Keylogging, Spying, that's why there are 30 tools and batch files out there to 'try' and address that... Actually, storing in the cloud is optional. No experience with CB's I see? Each file/folder has the option to store locally and/or in the cloud. Your choice. The reason some of the best and brightest recommend Chromebooks are because of very valid reasons relating to threat surface, attack vectors and vulnerabilities. There is no expert in the world that disputes that fact - none. Since Chromebooks are a distributed opensource OS nobody profits by recommending it. It's nothing knew that Windows is the most insecure OS in the world, that's old news. It's also the only OS in the world that needs security products like antivirus software. This is for a reason, it's largely a spaghetti code kludge OS designed with security as an afterthought. Bill, please don't take all of this personally, we're just dealing with facts here. You are Bill Bright from Wilders right? The legendary troll? [/QUOTE]

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