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Sophisticated hacker bypasses powerful antivirus, how?
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<blockquote data-quote="i7ii" data-source="post: 1117555" data-attributes="member: 116614"><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /></p><p></p><p>I'm 41 years old ffs, used to talk like that about other people when i was freaking kid, like: thinking Bruce Lee is the most powerful fighter - that he could beat an army alone - the God like being that he is among us mortal humans. Similar to OS development - he borrowed and reinvented a lot of martial arts moves - till with the help of media he became the most known martial arts fighter in the whole world. Again, with a kid's mind - who could foresee someone being able to beat Bruce Lee - even as an army of fighters - let alone 1 on 1?! But with time, while growing older - i started to wise-up about this BS worldwide marketing/propaganda - and coincidentally - around that time "the Chuck Norris memes became a thing". And that's basically how your post sounds like - while talking about this - so called skilled cybersecurity engineers and all the other devs who left their mark in the IT industry - with the products they released.</p><p></p><p>The answer and the reality of to your black hats hacking dilemma is rather simple: most of this people you hold in high regard "are just normal people - who had a passion for computers, for software and the way it works". Some are indeed geniuses (grasping things and the way the work faster and easier than others) - but even those are still humans (have their limits to what they can do). Point being, the majority learn from others - but the IT World is still a new thing - new tech (be it cyber/virtual or physical hardware) - that's constantly changing and evolving - while what this cybersecurity engineers know/understand (same goes for OS devs) - is borrowed from older knowledge (way of doing things). Simply put - they struggle to keep up with the times. While kids born with a smartphone/tablet in their hand - who develop their thinking around this gadgets - if they form a passion for black hat hacking (just because it's deemed as cool) - they can learn from the internet all the new ways to bypass this securities - "based on all the new exploits discovered recently (even among private black hat communities) - exploits whit the white hat hackers - might discover a month latter - place a label on them as <a href="https://www.kaspersky.com/resource-center/definitions/zero-day-exploit" target="_blank"><strong>Zero Day Exploits </strong></a> But discovering them is one thing "and patching them - is another (takes both time and awareness). Even Microsoft - they discover a vulnerability in June 2023 - and they patch it in January 2024. That's 6 months - when it can be exploited. </p><p></p><p>To make things worst - all this new ways developed to counter possible cybersecurity holes - end-up creating issues or even posing a risk themselves. Such is the case with Kernel-Level Security (and all its security features). After all, after the CrowdStrike fiasco - Microsoft even announced a desire to cut the plug and ban Kernel level access. Funny thing is, this days even Game developers - released Kernel-Level Anti-Cheats <a href="https://research.meekolab.com/understanding-kernel-level-anticheats-in-online-games" target="_blank"><strong>(here's a good article covering this subject).</strong></a> And let's not forget - we entered the age of A.I. Which, sure, could help in terms of security - but A.I. tool are also developed for harm (especially by governmental agencies - aiming to spy and breech the security of other governments). Still, for a home user (one of the masses) - kids hold a higher risk (breaching securities for fun). Same can be said about - the scamming industry (which at this point - actually is a major and widely spread industry) - who promote their "business models" on the most popular Social Media platforms - like Facebook and IG (whom are more concerned with profits - than the legitimacy of any customer renting virtual space on their platform - to spreads adds).</p><p></p><p>Long story short: in 2025 - cyber security is a game of make belief, where we're simply pretending to be secure. All this security solutions work - till they don't. Even so, they're ways to limit the (financial) damage anyone could cause. Sure, it helps to be a poor nobody (so you won't catch anyone's interest) - who struggles to survive (you'd be a cyber criminal most unfortunate target - to waste its time breaching your system and getting a hold of your credit card details - only to find out... you have 7.20 $ on your account). But if you have enough money to spare - buy a PC just for shopping and use it only on legitimate sites (banking & shopping), don't mix it with your home PC used for anything else. It's easier to target a system that's consonantly (or most of the time) on the internet, that's active on social media and most of the other sites. Yet kinda hard to target a system - used only for banking or on major shopping sites (unless you're using Public Wi-Fi to access the internet - which is basically self-sabotage - like walking with a "Scam Me Please" sign on top of your head).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="i7ii, post: 1117555, member: 116614"] 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 I'm 41 years old ffs, used to talk like that about other people when i was freaking kid, like: thinking Bruce Lee is the most powerful fighter - that he could beat an army alone - the God like being that he is among us mortal humans. Similar to OS development - he borrowed and reinvented a lot of martial arts moves - till with the help of media he became the most known martial arts fighter in the whole world. Again, with a kid's mind - who could foresee someone being able to beat Bruce Lee - even as an army of fighters - let alone 1 on 1?! But with time, while growing older - i started to wise-up about this BS worldwide marketing/propaganda - and coincidentally - around that time "the Chuck Norris memes became a thing". And that's basically how your post sounds like - while talking about this - so called skilled cybersecurity engineers and all the other devs who left their mark in the IT industry - with the products they released. The answer and the reality of to your black hats hacking dilemma is rather simple: most of this people you hold in high regard "are just normal people - who had a passion for computers, for software and the way it works". Some are indeed geniuses (grasping things and the way the work faster and easier than others) - but even those are still humans (have their limits to what they can do). Point being, the majority learn from others - but the IT World is still a new thing - new tech (be it cyber/virtual or physical hardware) - that's constantly changing and evolving - while what this cybersecurity engineers know/understand (same goes for OS devs) - is borrowed from older knowledge (way of doing things). Simply put - they struggle to keep up with the times. While kids born with a smartphone/tablet in their hand - who develop their thinking around this gadgets - if they form a passion for black hat hacking (just because it's deemed as cool) - they can learn from the internet all the new ways to bypass this securities - "based on all the new exploits discovered recently (even among private black hat communities) - exploits whit the white hat hackers - might discover a month latter - place a label on them as [URL='https://www.kaspersky.com/resource-center/definitions/zero-day-exploit'][B]Zero Day Exploits [/B][/URL][B] [/B]But discovering them is one thing "and patching them - is another (takes both time and awareness). Even Microsoft - they discover a vulnerability in June 2023 - and they patch it in January 2024. That's 6 months - when it can be exploited. To make things worst - all this new ways developed to counter possible cybersecurity holes - end-up creating issues or even posing a risk themselves. Such is the case with Kernel-Level Security (and all its security features). After all, after the CrowdStrike fiasco - Microsoft even announced a desire to cut the plug and ban Kernel level access. Funny thing is, this days even Game developers - released Kernel-Level Anti-Cheats [URL='https://research.meekolab.com/understanding-kernel-level-anticheats-in-online-games'][B](here's a good article covering this subject).[/B][/URL][B] [/B]And let's not forget - we entered the age of A.I. Which, sure, could help in terms of security - but A.I. tool are also developed for harm (especially by governmental agencies - aiming to spy and breech the security of other governments). Still, for a home user (one of the masses) - kids hold a higher risk (breaching securities for fun). Same can be said about - the scamming industry (which at this point - actually is a major and widely spread industry) - who promote their "business models" on the most popular Social Media platforms - like Facebook and IG (whom are more concerned with profits - than the legitimacy of any customer renting virtual space on their platform - to spreads adds). Long story short: in 2025 - cyber security is a game of make belief, where we're simply pretending to be secure. All this security solutions work - till they don't. Even so, they're ways to limit the (financial) damage anyone could cause. Sure, it helps to be a poor nobody (so you won't catch anyone's interest) - who struggles to survive (you'd be a cyber criminal most unfortunate target - to waste its time breaching your system and getting a hold of your credit card details - only to find out... you have 7.20 $ on your account). But if you have enough money to spare - buy a PC just for shopping and use it only on legitimate sites (banking & shopping), don't mix it with your home PC used for anything else. It's easier to target a system that's consonantly (or most of the time) on the internet, that's active on social media and most of the other sites. Yet kinda hard to target a system - used only for banking or on major shopping sites (unless you're using Public Wi-Fi to access the internet - which is basically self-sabotage - like walking with a "Scam Me Please" sign on top of your head). [/QUOTE]
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